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HOW DO I BE OKAY IF JESUS LIED ????????????


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HOW AM I GOING TO SURVIVE IF MY FAITH IS ABOUT TO COLLAPSE ?  I STILL WANT TO BE A GOOD PERSON I STILL WANT TO LIVE MY LIFE FOR THE BETTER,  I STILL WANT TO BECOME MORE COMPASSIONATE AND TO LEAVE THE MICHAEL AND SATAN THING IN THE PAST BUT LOOK,  LOOK

 

WHT AM I GOING TO DO,  WHAT IF I CANNOT GENUINELY CONVINCE MYSELF THAT HE ONLY MEANT IT SYMBOLICALLY ?  I AM HAVING A MENTAL BREAKDOWN OH MY GOSH

 

This was at the Passover feast at the Last Supper when he initiated the New Covenant Lord's Supper bread and wine Rituals

 

 

Matthew 26:29

29 But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.


Mark 14:25

25 Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God.


Luke 22:18

18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.
 

 

and then

 

John 19:28-30

28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.

29 Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth.

30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

 

so he did this last part to fulfill prophecy from scripture,  but it seems like he lied and Idk how to trust him

 

 

last edit on 7/29/2022 5:29:41 PM
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Jesus is triggering all of my trust issues what the heck he is supposed to be the truth why is he triggering all of my trust issues ????????????

 

 

last edit on 7/29/2022 5:30:23 PM
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WHAT THE HECK !!!!!!!!!!!!  CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW THE HECK THIS MAKES SENSE BRCAUSE I AM TRYING TO GIVE THE BENEFIT OF A DOUBT TO "HE MEANT IT SYMBOLICALLY" BUT I AM REALLY FREAKING OUT RIGHT NOW CAN SOMEONE PLEASE CALM ME DOWN

 

 

last edit on 7/29/2022 5:30:44 PM
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k probably no one on this forum can even help me but to be honest,  I do not even trust asking Christians because I do not trust that they think skeptically enough to be able to even answer this because I am not even trusting Jesus right now so maybe I just need to take some time to myself and do self care and self soothing because of being triggered so horribly by this seeming lie  :/  I do not like this,  at all  like this is not cool to me and I am not very thrilled about this  this is very upsetting and dysregulating  why could he have not just drank water if he knew that this would have ended up triggering my trust issues this much

 

 

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God lied to Abraham too. 

Makes one wonder what else they lie about? 

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last edit on 7/29/2022 5:34:26 PM
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DO NOT EVEN COME FREAKING CLOSE TO FREAKING CONTRADICTING YOURSELF IT IS FREAKING EMOTIONALLY DYSREGULATING CAN YOU JUST AVOID LIKE WHAT THE HECK

 

 

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WHAT THE FREAKING HECK !!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

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"HE MEANT IT SYMBOLICALLY"

Ahh, the biggest cop out of them all.

To me, it's fine if they take it all as symbols, or if they take it all literally, but to pick and choose which to take literally and which to take as symbols turns every passage into a personal choice, rather than the Word of God. 

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After these things God decided to test Abraham’s faith. God said to him, “Abraham!”

And he said, “Yes!”

Then God said, “Take your son to the land of Moriah and kill your son there as a sacrifice for me. This must be Isaac, your only son, the one you love. Use him as a burnt offering on one of the mountains there. I will tell you which mountain.”

In the morning Abraham got up and saddled his donkey. He took Isaac and two servants with him. He cut the wood for the sacrifice. Then they went to the place where God told them to go.

After they traveled three days, Abraham looked up, and in the distance he saw the place where they were going.

Then he said to his servants, “Stay here with the donkey. The boy and I will go to that place and worship. Then we will come back to you later.”

Abraham took the wood for the sacrifice and put it on his son’s shoulder. Abraham took the special knife and fire. Then both he and his son went together to the place for worship.

Isaac said to his father Abraham, “Father!”

Abraham answered, “Yes, son?”

Isaac said, “I see the wood and the fire. But where is the lamb we will burn as a sacrifice?”

Abraham answered, “God himself is providing the lamb for the sacrifice, my son.”

So both Abraham and his son went together to that place.

When they came to the place where God told them to go, Abraham built an altar. He carefully laid the wood on the altar. Then he tied up his son Isaac and laid him on the altar on top of the wood.

Then Abraham reached for his knife to kill his son.

But the angel of the Lord stopped him. The angel called from heaven and said, “Abraham, Abraham!”

Abraham answered, “Yes?”

The angel said, “Don’t kill your son or hurt him in any way. Now I can see that you do respect and obey God. I see that you are ready to kill your son, your only son, for me.”

- Genesis 22, 1-12

This one in particular has raised so many questions from me. 

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So it was Abram that lied to Isaac,  not God to Abram  God just gave a command,  and then later on said that following through on the command was not required anymore  God is free to do that it seems and it is not sinning

 

 

last edit on 7/29/2022 5:53:48 PM
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