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MissCommunication said: 

natasha87 said: 

Turncoat said: 

MissCommunication said: 

Turncoat said: 

When there's been a pattern of misconceptions where even Inquirer's had to correct MC before over it when we "Oh really"-ed over it, 

 what misconceptions exactly have needed to be corrected? List them.

More like when don't you tbh, poor Inq had to deal with so much thanks to you. 

The ones off the top of my head anyway come from times that you've felt the need to speak for him over things you'd claim he's said in private. The guy then ends up too afraid to correct you publicly, allowing a surprising amount of your blunders to coast here in spite of you being corrected over it in private. 

 he's doing The Thing again, and projecting his own fear of crow onto inq

 ya, it's hilarious that he claims inq had to 'clean up' after me while he spends 14 pages and how many threads trying to mop up craw's messes lol

He did, he had to speak at length about how he did not agree with many of your statements while saying what was quote unquote 'really going on'. 

He's no white knight, if anything he's starting to look two-faced. 

Turncoat said: 

MissCommunication said: 

natasha87 said: 

Turncoat said: 

MissCommunication said: 

Turncoat said: 

When there's been a pattern of misconceptions where even Inquirer's had to correct MC before over it when we "Oh really"-ed over it, 

 what misconceptions exactly have needed to be corrected? List them.

More like when don't you tbh, poor Inq had to deal with so much thanks to you. 

The ones off the top of my head anyway come from times that you've felt the need to speak for him over things you'd claim he's said in private. The guy then ends up too afraid to correct you publicly, allowing a surprising amount of your blunders to coast here in spite of you being corrected over it in private. 

 he's doing The Thing again, and projecting his own fear of crow onto inq

 ya, it's hilarious that he claims inq had to 'clean up' after me while he spends 14 pages and how many threads trying to mop up craw's messes lol

He did, he had to speak at length about how he did not agree with many of your statements while saying what was quote unquote 'really going on'. 

He's no white knight, if anything he's starting to look two-faced. 

 Oh, I always knew he was playing both sides behind the scenes, which was weak and retarded as there never needed to be two sides. But your claim that he cleaned up my messes on the forum is a joke. 

I do think he was more honest with me (because he could be) then with you two with your jealous vendettas. 

MissCommunication said: 

Turncoat said: 

MissCommunication said: 

natasha87 said: 

Turncoat said: 

MissCommunication said: 

Turncoat said: 

When there's been a pattern of misconceptions where even Inquirer's had to correct MC before over it when we "Oh really"-ed over it, 

 what misconceptions exactly have needed to be corrected? List them.

More like when don't you tbh, poor Inq had to deal with so much thanks to you. 

The ones off the top of my head anyway come from times that you've felt the need to speak for him over things you'd claim he's said in private. The guy then ends up too afraid to correct you publicly, allowing a surprising amount of your blunders to coast here in spite of you being corrected over it in private. 

 he's doing The Thing again, and projecting his own fear of crow onto inq

 ya, it's hilarious that he claims inq had to 'clean up' after me while he spends 14 pages and how many threads trying to mop up craw's messes lol

He did, he had to speak at length about how he did not agree with many of your statements while saying what was quote unquote 'really going on'. 

He's no white knight, if anything he's starting to look two-faced. 

Oh, I always knew he was playing both sides behind the scenes, which was weak and retarded as there never needed to be two sides. But your claim that he cleaned up my messes on the forum is a joke. 

He did, or at least took her and I's side when talking to us before taking your side when talking to you. 

I do think he was more honest with me (because he could be) then with you two with your jealous vendettas. 

I think this is your hero worship talking again, because it sounds almost like he made the same claims about both of you to the other verbatim. 

I mean he picked her, instead of you. Come on now. 

Turncoat said: 

Lenalee said: 

Wait i have a question TC were you also able to date other people while you were in an open relationship or was the only one allowed to date other people just crow?

It's complicated, but the heart wants what it wants. She seems to be moving on fairly well too, even has some new nicknames for him now that their stuff's IRL. 

I'd said repeatedly that I am not built for poly relationships over jealousy issues and damages from being cheated on by past partners. I am insecure and sharing makes it feel like some sort of contest where I'd stand to lose any time an argument crops up or something, knowing the 'other' will be there as a support network that lends to usurpation sort of like we see CS doing when she shops for 'backup guys'. All of our baggage from earlier in the relationship basically sealed that from showing any allowance for it to be pure toxicity for us, lending to the one witnessing the other exploring it to get miffed even during breakups construed later to be more like 'a break'. I was assured that we were monogamous while what they were was emphasized to be 'Friends' with each allowance being over basic things, like being allowed to make friendly flirty comments as long as it doesn't go deeper than that (not being allowed that makes it harder to make friends I guess), which then expanded and hit deeper shit until it hit points that I'd guess I wouldn't be okay with... which lent to not talking as much about it if not another reason being presented that was not the insecurity I'd presumed. When she slipped to me that Inquirer as her friend couldn't date someone without her permission for example I started to get increasingly suspicious about the 'friendship', and when I'd talk about the things 'he's after' her point of view was largely 'he can think whatever he wants, what he thinks doesn't have to do with my choices'. 

She tried to take me out to dinners and stuff to discuss it with me, but my unagreeable nature over something like this likely led to her trying to break up with either him or me and fail, finding the choice to be a painful one to make while preferring to not make it, finding it easier to prefer whoever she at the moment's found herself talking to, me or him. I'd even be uncomfortable with the two having eye-exchanges that showed 'more was going on', but of course I'd direct that to being about me and my jealousy and that her and I's relationship was stronger than this, as it had proven to be for years after some pretty weird stuff. My saying I was not fine with things likely increased the appetite to do it too, but saying I'm fine with it would just make for it going further that way too. In retrospect though she probably would have left me sooner if I were not a suicide risk, and this was her trying to find answers from within a situation where she for a time saw none (even with me telling her that my death would not be her fault or responsibility during some deep talks on my problems). 

I'd ask about it and be given reasoning as to how it 'wasn't bad', I'd show I was uncomfortable with it and would prefer it to stop, but then it kept escalating until from the sounds of it she was talking about it in DMs apparently about 'two boyfriends' or something like that while not talking to me about it over how it wouldn't go anywhere or to protect me or something. She emphasized that novelty is one of the biggest attractions and it was overtime made to be my problem that she couldn't see other people, but even as my problem she didn't want to hurt my feelings and largely complied with that weakness of mine. The relationship had ups and downs, but milled down overtime until she hit a crossroads where she had to pick one and once it got towards the final hour she chose him. 

She and I separated briefly like... thrice before patching things up each time over the seven years, and both of us made some odd choices and mistakes during those, but during one of those times I guess she got close with Inquirer and then refused to drop it. Considering in moments of my own pain I sought escape sometimes too I can't really blame her for finding refuge in him during the time she and I were separated. When the two of them were visiting in person she and I were not together anymore, but once she and I became friendly again a big part of me was ready to patch things up and try to make things 'Go Back To Normal' with me even visiting her to test what things have become. When there I saw her showing a lot of the older interest and dynamic, but she would use language out loud to remind herself that she's chosen a different path. Even when I asked if I could stay longer she seemed really uncomfortable with it, but ultimately went with it over not wanting to risk how I might hurt myself. 

She'd say back then that she was fine with me pursuing other people (when it wasn't about specifics anyway, and further emphasized that once she had Inq), just how she'd say Inquirer is allowed to be with other people, but that is not something I wanted and my needs were something she agreed to adhere to as long as we were together, and in time she'd say enough to pacify me over it with strongly reduced language over the severity of the situation once it got to places I'd not be comfortable with. Before the breakup with her, with her driving away to be with her folks a bit before hitting the airport, she assuring me we would not be breaking up, that we had too much invested at this point and that she would never do that, but once I was weird over webcam about the two of them even potentially just sharing a bed she chose him instead over how my needs continued to overcomplicate things and whatever was going through her head in relation to all of this. 

Unless you count emotional cheating there wasn't any, as far as I know there wasn't anything physical or whatever between them until she was single. There's likely a lot I do not know, as what began with excuses where my trust was dubious over the explanations out of jealousy in time began to become how it "wasn't my business" towards the end as more and more secrets began to form. She and I are otherwise still friends who watch shows together and talk about what's happening in our lives, plus I'm the one caretaking for the a cat that was in both of our care so she wants to see how he's doing from time to time too. I'm sure my version is missing bits and rife with bias too, but this is how I took it going with me sparing a lot of details. A lot of it was to protect me and challenge herself to 'do the right thing', but later she found going to him to be the right thing instead while seeing being around me as an emotional black hole of 'abuse' she'll keep falling into if she lets herself. 

Rather than cheating I'd call it moving on, and I don't blame her for moving on when being with me kind of became a trap, when she outright admitted that returning to me would be her 'accepting failure'. Being with me probably sucks past a point and there was no real means of bridging my mono needs with her poly ones other than having one comply with the other's wishes, which for a long time considering the duration of this relationship she did. She did try, but ultimately monogamy proved to not be for her while I can't become woke enough to embrace multiple partners even with it being offered to me as a way to 'save the relationship' or whatever, and it's not like she didn't talk to me about those needs as a general thing while we were together. To her credit she tried to find ways to compromise, but there wasn't really the room to when I see mating with another as a way to lose feelings for the former, to trivialize what's shared between the two of them by spreading it thin. ...

 Dear Jesus Christ, this is fucking sad on so many levels. It's the rationalization of an abuse victim. You are literally blaming yourself for having healthy, normal human emotions. She forced you to go past your healthy relationship boundaries instead of just breaking up with you. What a cunt. Please get therapy.  

MissCommunication said: 

Turncoat said: 

Lenalee said: 

Wait i have a question TC were you also able to date other people while you were in an open relationship or was the only one allowed to date other people just crow?

It's complicated, but the heart wants what it wants. She seems to be moving on fairly well too, even has some new nicknames for him now that their stuff's IRL. 

I'd said repeatedly that I am not built for poly relationships over jealousy issues and damages from being cheated on by past partners. I am insecure and sharing makes it feel like some sort of contest where I'd stand to lose any time an argument crops up or something, knowing the 'other' will be there as a support network that lends to usurpation sort of like we see CS doing when she shops for 'backup guys'. All of our baggage from earlier in the relationship basically sealed that from showing any allowance for it to be pure toxicity for us, lending to the one witnessing the other exploring it to get miffed even during breakups construed later to be more like 'a break'. I was assured that we were monogamous while what they were was emphasized to be 'Friends' with each allowance being over basic things, like being allowed to make friendly flirty comments as long as it doesn't go deeper than that (not being allowed that makes it harder to make friends I guess), which then expanded and hit deeper shit until it hit points that I'd guess I wouldn't be okay with... which lent to not talking as much about it if not another reason being presented that was not the insecurity I'd presumed. When she slipped to me that Inquirer as her friend couldn't date someone without her permission for example I started to get increasingly suspicious about the 'friendship', and when I'd talk about the things 'he's after' her point of view was largely 'he can think whatever he wants, what he thinks doesn't have to do with my choices'. 

She tried to take me out to dinners and stuff to discuss it with me, but my unagreeable nature over something like this likely led to her trying to break up with either him or me and fail, finding the choice to be a painful one to make while preferring to not make it, finding it easier to prefer whoever she at the moment's found herself talking to, me or him. I'd even be uncomfortable with the two having eye-exchanges that showed 'more was going on', but of course I'd direct that to being about me and my jealousy and that her and I's relationship was stronger than this, as it had proven to be for years after some pretty weird stuff. My saying I was not fine with things likely increased the appetite to do it too, but saying I'm fine with it would just make for it going further that way too. In retrospect though she probably would have left me sooner if I were not a suicide risk, and this was her trying to find answers from within a situation where she for a time saw none (even with me telling her that my death would not be her fault or responsibility during some deep talks on my problems). 

I'd ask about it and be given reasoning as to how it 'wasn't bad', I'd show I was uncomfortable with it and would prefer it to stop, but then it kept escalating until from the sounds of it she was talking about it in DMs apparently about 'two boyfriends' or something like that while not talking to me about it over how it wouldn't go anywhere or to protect me or something. She emphasized that novelty is one of the biggest attractions and it was overtime made to be my problem that she couldn't see other people, but even as my problem she didn't want to hurt my feelings and largely complied with that weakness of mine. The relationship had ups and downs, but milled down overtime until she hit a crossroads where she had to pick one and once it got towards the final hour she chose him. 

She and I separated briefly like... thrice before patching things up each time over the seven years, and both of us made some odd choices and mistakes during those, but during one of those times I guess she got close with Inquirer and then refused to drop it. Considering in moments of my own pain I sought escape sometimes too I can't really blame her for finding refuge in him during the time she and I were separated. When the two of them were visiting in person she and I were not together anymore, but once she and I became friendly again a big part of me was ready to patch things up and try to make things 'Go Back To Normal' with me even visiting her to test what things have become. When there I saw her showing a lot of the older interest and dynamic, but she would use language out loud to remind herself that she's chosen a different path. Even when I asked if I could stay longer she seemed really uncomfortable with it, but ultimately went with it over not wanting to risk how I might hurt myself. 

She'd say back then that she was fine with me pursuing other people (when it wasn't about specifics anyway, and further emphasized that once she had Inq), just how she'd say Inquirer is allowed to be with other people, but that is not something I wanted and my needs were something she agreed to adhere to as long as we were together, and in time she'd say enough to pacify me over it with strongly reduced language over the severity of the situation once it got to places I'd not be comfortable with. Before the breakup with her, with her driving away to be with her folks a bit before hitting the airport, she assuring me we would not be breaking up, that we had too much invested at this point and that she would never do that, but once I was weird over webcam about the two of them even potentially just sharing a bed she chose him instead over how my needs continued to overcomplicate things and whatever was going through her head in relation to all of this. 

Unless you count emotional cheating there wasn't any, as far as I know there wasn't anything physical or whatever between them until she was single. There's likely a lot I do not know, as what began with excuses where my trust was dubious over the explanations out of jealousy in time began to become how it "wasn't my business" towards the end as more and more secrets began to form. She and I are otherwise still friends who watch shows together and talk about what's happening in our lives, plus I'm the one caretaking for the a cat that was in both of our care so she wants to see how he's doing from time to time too. I'm sure my version is missing bits and rife with bias too, but this is how I took it going with me sparing a lot of details. A lot of it was to protect me and challenge herself to 'do the right thing', but later she found going to him to be the right thing instead while seeing being around me as an emotional black hole of 'abuse' she'll keep falling into if she lets herself. 

Rather than cheating I'd call it moving on, and I don't blame her for moving on when being with me kind of became a trap, when she outright admitted that returning to me would be her 'accepting failure'. Being with me probably sucks past a point and there was no real means of bridging my mono needs with her poly ones other than having one comply with the other's wishes, which for a long time considering the duration of this relationship she did. She did try, but ultimately monogamy proved to not be for her while I can't become woke enough to embrace multiple partners even with it being offered to me as a way to 'save the relationship' or whatever, and it's not like she didn't talk to me about those needs as a general thing while we were together. To her credit she tried to find ways to compromise, but there wasn't really the room to when I see mating with another as a way to lose feelings for the former, to trivialize what's shared between the two of them by spreading it thin. ...

 Dear Jesus Christ, this is fucking sad on so many levels. It's the rationalization of an abuse victim. You are literally blaming yourself for having healthy, normal human emotions. She forced you to go past your healthy relationship boundaries instead of just breaking up with you. What a cunt. Please get therapy.  

 TC's a self pitying piece of shit. I have no sympathy

amber heard should have read this shit before her dumbass went on the stand tbh. tc is basically like 'i thought i had a right to my feelings, but then through talking with crow i realised i don't & it was so hurtful to her that i even thought i did'

Turncoat said: 

Lenalee said: 

 

What i was getting to was it was less a poly relationship and more she dates whomever she likes while the partner is meant to be loyal. Inquirer will experience the same break as she's not capable of monogamous relationships it seems.

Inquirer seems to be fine with polyamory though, and the only thing I see potentially getting in the way of those two is his weird behavior over MissComm. 

 What you call ‘weird behaviour’ was just a consequence of someone being forced to end a longstanding friendship they didn't want to end just to appease the jealousy of a deeply insecure, emotionally immature female (and the flying monkey bf she was living with at the time).

Inq never wanted that so he appeased her (and you), and me to some degree, to keep peace. It was fucked up and I’ve told him that and he has apologized profusely over the years but he definitely lost integrity points with me because he was too afraid to set the record straight,

But what you don't get, is that there never needed to be all the drama crow and you created. You two lost your shit simply because inq replied to a post I made – loudly sending the message that he better not talk to me on SC or there would be consequences. That’s just blatant manipulation, which made it uncomfortable for him to come here because he wasn't willing to stop talking to me (even though I offered up the option several times).

 You then went on to use a puppet (or possibly recruit a socially awkward and obtuse flying monkey?), to make a thread to try to publicly bash me and create more conflict and drama. I could have outted the cozy poly situation between you three at that time and crow telling inq that she would possibly leave you for a monogamous relationship with him, but I chose not to out of respect for him. She was lying to you then. 

And, as far as polyamory goes, Inq is monogamous, or at least he was with me lol, maybe he has lowered his standards. Crow orbited our relationship for years – and flirted with him numerous times to the point he had to shut her down more than once. lol  But the truth is, which I don't think you know, is that I told inq he should date other people well over a year before he started up with her. I was never a threat that way but she seems to be the typical female narcissist who sees all women as competition. 

At the end of this, she has revealed herself as the liar she is through her telling BT I harassed your family. There was no reason to make up that shit – unless of course it was a test to see if/ how information flows. She’s  manipulative but not very smart.

She also purposely told Cav about her trip to Albania to use him as a tool to get the info she wanted out – despite how it would hurt and embarrass you. We all see that and that's some next level disordered shit. 

Turncoat said: 

MissCommunication said: 

Turncoat said: 

MissCommunication said: 

natasha87 said: 

Turncoat said: 

MissCommunication said: 

Turncoat said: 

When there's been a pattern of misconceptions where even Inquirer's had to correct MC before over it when we "Oh really"-ed over it, 

 what misconceptions exactly have needed to be corrected? List them.

More like when don't you tbh, poor Inq had to deal with so much thanks to you. 

The ones off the top of my head anyway come from times that you've felt the need to speak for him over things you'd claim he's said in private. The guy then ends up too afraid to correct you publicly, allowing a surprising amount of your blunders to coast here in spite of you being corrected over it in private. 

 he's doing The Thing again, and projecting his own fear of crow onto inq

 ya, it's hilarious that he claims inq had to 'clean up' after me while he spends 14 pages and how many threads trying to mop up craw's messes lol

He did, he had to speak at length about how he did not agree with many of your statements while saying what was quote unquote 'really going on'. 

He's no white knight, if anything he's starting to look two-faced. 

Oh, I always knew he was playing both sides behind the scenes, which was weak and retarded as there never needed to be two sides. But your claim that he cleaned up my messes on the forum is a joke. 

He did, or at least took her and I's side when talking to us before taking your side when talking to you. 

I do think he was more honest with me (because he could be) then with you two with your jealous vendettas. 

I think this is your hero worship talking again, because it sounds almost like he made the same claims about both of you to the other verbatim. 

I mean he picked her, instead of you. Come on now. 

 Bruh, I already ended it with him a year before and then again three months before he rebounded to her. She will always be second choice and she knows that.  

MissCommunication said: 

Turncoat said: 

MissCommunication said: 

Turncoat said: 

MissCommunication said: 

natasha87 said: 

Turncoat said: 

MissCommunication said: 

Turncoat said: 

When there's been a pattern of misconceptions where even Inquirer's had to correct MC before over it when we "Oh really"-ed over it, 

 what misconceptions exactly have needed to be corrected? List them.

More like when don't you tbh, poor Inq had to deal with so much thanks to you. 

The ones off the top of my head anyway come from times that you've felt the need to speak for him over things you'd claim he's said in private. The guy then ends up too afraid to correct you publicly, allowing a surprising amount of your blunders to coast here in spite of you being corrected over it in private. 

 he's doing The Thing again, and projecting his own fear of crow onto inq

 ya, it's hilarious that he claims inq had to 'clean up' after me while he spends 14 pages and how many threads trying to mop up craw's messes lol

He did, he had to speak at length about how he did not agree with many of your statements while saying what was quote unquote 'really going on'. 

He's no white knight, if anything he's starting to look two-faced. 

Oh, I always knew he was playing both sides behind the scenes, which was weak and retarded as there never needed to be two sides. But your claim that he cleaned up my messes on the forum is a joke. 

He did, or at least took her and I's side when talking to us before taking your side when talking to you. 

I do think he was more honest with me (because he could be) then with you two with your jealous vendettas. 

I think this is your hero worship talking again, because it sounds almost like he made the same claims about both of you to the other verbatim. 

I mean he picked her, instead of you. Come on now. 

 Bruh, I already ended it with him a year before and then again three months before he rebounded to her. She will always be second choice and she knows that.  

He had very different tales to tell from yours, and over his appearance of rationality in comparison to how often you get things wrong even when still partially on point, even over non-Inq things, he's been seen as the more trustworthy person between the two of you. 

Man though, Inq had me fooled. All the shit he said about you being a ruse, that's nuts. 

MissCommunication said:

It was fucked up and I’ve told him that and he has apologized profusely over the years but he definitely lost integrity points with me because he was too afraid to set the record straight,

Bruh, we were saying the same damn things to him about you.

With what he was saying and how weirdly you were acting on the forum he looked like the one speaking sense.