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0 votes RE: Could God Save Satan From Eternal Damnation?
Lenalee said: 

No

 

 

There needs to be an alternative form of punishment as God must always play the savior and so he will not and cannot save Satan from the damnation he's created

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So you  admit  ^ that there is something God cannot do? 

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Isn’t the whole story about saving people from themselves?  Satan is a scapegoat, usually the accuser or tempter, leading people to a punishment established by consequence.  God only *needs* to be savior, because people need saving.  I don’t think some new punishment would be needed, the story and consequences is the same, and it’s been one of choice.

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0 votes RE: Could God Save Satan From Eternal Damnation?

If God were to save Satan though, wouldn't that prove God's point? 

Surely He could make a replacement. 

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0 votes RE: Could God Save Satan From Eternal Damnation?

If God were to save Satan though, wouldn't that prove God's point? 

Surely He could make a replacement. 

Through the miracle of free will and pride, surely one could volunteer.

Oh you mean assuming the heavenly role left in Lucifer’s absence?

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0 votes RE: Could God Save Satan From Eternal Damnation?

If God were to save Satan though, wouldn't that prove God's point? 

Surely He could make a replacement. 

Through the miracle of free will and pride, surely one could volunteer.

Oh you mean assuming the heavenly role left in Lucifer’s absence?

I mean a new Satan once the original would be like "You're right, I see the light", and God being a heart reader and time lord would know he's being honest. 

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0 votes RE: Could God Save Satan From Eternal Damnation?

If he is omnipotent, then yes, but chooses not to. Religious people often say the moral calculus of God can work in ways above or beyond our understanding, but is ultimately just. There is always a higher-level explanation; i.e. "there is evil in the world, because God wants us to have free will."

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0 votes RE: Could God Save Satan From Eternal Damnation?

After some skimming on Google, some seem to say yes while others seem to say no. It seems to be one of the more unclear questions over there being just as much reasoning for both. 

Thoughts? 

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 Yes he can but he does not want to 

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0 votes RE: Could God Save Satan From Eternal Damnation?

After some skimming on Google, some seem to say yes while others seem to say no. It seems to be one of the more unclear questions over there being just as much reasoning for both. 

Thoughts? 

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 Yes he can but he does not want to 

 This is just an excuse for evil existing on earth. If he would, what would happen?

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0 votes RE: Could God Save Satan From Eternal Damnation?

If he is omnipotent, then yes, but chooses not to. Religious people often say the moral calculus of God can work in ways above or beyond our understanding, but is ultimately just. There is always a higher-level explanation; i.e. "there is evil in the world, because God wants us to have free will."

 Without free will, then there is no evil. Why did God choose so?

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0 votes RE: Could God Save Satan From Eternal Damnation?
cx3 said: 

After some skimming on Google, some seem to say yes while others seem to say no. It seems to be one of the more unclear questions over there being just as much reasoning for both. 

Thoughts? 

 Yes he can but he does not want to 

 This is just an excuse for evil existing on earth. If he would, what would happen?

Maybe it'd be like how they describe the state people will be in Post-Rapture. 

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