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Could God Save Satan From Eternal Damnation?


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After some skimming on Google, some seem to say yes while others seem to say no. It seems to be one of the more unclear questions over there being just as much reasoning for both. 

Thoughts? 

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from my interpretation so far,  No  :/  although I wanted the answer to be "Yes",  I never found a convincing argument for it in the scriptures because I do not believe in "Christian Universalism"

 

 

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So you admit that there is something God cannot do? 

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Could God Save Satan From Eternal Damnation?

Yes, if he were repentant.

Lucifer's rebellion and subsequent banishment are mostly symbolically alluded to.  Yet, he maintains a role in service of God, perhaps as the foil.  Who's to say that this wasn't "The Plan"?  And sure, we're going to get into dealing with predestination, free will, the Fall of Man, and all that jazz, then.

Whom should be asking who for forgiveness?

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last edit on 6/3/2022 6:16:10 PM
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So you admit that there is something God cannot do? 

 

He **can** do anything   he chooses not to do a lot of things

 

 

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So you admit that there is something God cannot do? 

He **can** do anything   he chooses not to do a lot of things

So he could if circumstances changed in such a way? 

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So you admit that there is something God cannot do? 

He **can** do anything   he chooses not to do a lot of things

So he could if circumstances changed in such a way? 

 

I mean,  Satan would have to repent but from what the scriptures say,  he already had his chance to repent and he chose to proceed with attempting to overthrow God  and now he is in a permanent damned state

 

 

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Lucifer's rebellion and subsequent banishment are mostly symbolically alluded to.  Yet, he maintains a role in service of God, perhaps as the foil. 

In defense of causality, Satan has been led to believe he was superior over the venom God whispered into his ear of him being his best angel, and even in The Bible is referred to as 'The God of This World', which is the closest to becoming God he could hope for. 

From his perspective, how could he give such a thing up? 

Who's to say that this wasn't "The Plan"? 

So effectively... God's giving Lucifer the same test Job was given and Lucifer's currently failing? There would be a fun sense of irony to that, if you ignore all the philosophical casualties like that of Job's tale. 

I could also see everything, and I mean everything, we're going through being one long punishment for Satan, like as if God saw Satan give us the fruit and went "Fine, you want to try this? You be God for a while" ala Bruce Almighty. It even rationalizes the floods and plagues. 

The bits about God not wanting people to see Lucifer, and how Lucifer can disguise as an angel of light, has had me wonder if Lucifer is actually God pulling a Wizard of Oz. For all we know God and Satan could be one person, yet he insists on being seen as separate over his love and his hatred. 



And sure, we're going to get into dealing with predestination, free will, the Fall of Man, and all that jazz, then.

Whom should be asking who for forgiveness?

You already know my opinion over God being more like a machine with Satan being more like a machine that gained human sentience. 

'Demon: The Descent' makes thought provoking arguments through it's storytelling. 

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last edit on 6/3/2022 7:42:37 PM
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So you admit that there is something God cannot do? 

He **can** do anything   he chooses not to do a lot of things

So he could if circumstances changed in such a way? 

I mean,  Satan would have to repent but from what the scriptures say,  he already had his chance to repent and he chose to proceed with attempting to overthrow God  and now he is in a permanent damned state

Doesn't The Bible say it's never too late to repent, save for Judgement Day itself? 

Maybe it's worse for Angels. 

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last edit on 6/3/2022 6:37:53 PM
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No

 

 

There needs to be an alternative form of punishment as God must always play the savior and so he will not and cannot save Satan from the damnation he's created

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