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JesusistheKing said: 

Spatial,  when you make it out like women have some sort of "irresistible power of seduction and deception",  you are actually giving away your power to Satan and to the temptation of sinning and this is not good for yourself or for any men

 

^  and when women see a man that is going to tell her that she has all of that power,  she is probably going to begin thinking of him as weak naturally because he is behaving weak  and then take advantage because of his weakness,  but If he was putting God and God's commandments first,  he would be that strong respectable leader for her

 

 

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Okay, bear with me. 

The phrase 'The Sins of the Father' and all that, a concept that is referenced in The Bible in multiple spots, effectively goes on about how one's folks pass their sins down to their children to somewhat of a degree. 

Now, a lot of what makes Adam responsible over Eve isn't simply a matter of Man and Woman, but that he as the first was responsible for the behaviors of that which was born from him. In a sense, Eve is Adam's daughter, and all crimes he does are effectively passed onto her as well. It's less that the man is being blamed as that so much as he is being blamed over the responsibility similar to that of a father figure. While the texts argue he is in a sense arguably more responsible, it is not 100% blame on him at all or else Eve would not have been punished as well. 

Why would God punish Eve if Eve was not to blame at all? 

JesusistheKing said: 

^  and when women see a man that is going to tell her that she has all of that power,  she is probably going to begin thinking of him as weak naturally because he is behaving weak  and then take advantage because of his weakness,  but If he was putting God and God's commandments first,  he would be that strong respectable leader for her

My sexual history strongly begs to differ, females with power are sexier and there is definitely a type that likes to lead. 

Then again they might see me as strong over how much I can take, but that is still denoting my being of the secondary role in the coupling. 

Turncoat said: 

Okay, bear with me. 

The phrase 'The Sins of the Father' and all that, a concept that is referenced in The Bible in multiple spots, effectively goes on about how one's folks pass their sins down to their children to somewhat of a degree. 

Now, a lot of what makes Adam responsible over Eve isn't simply a matter of Man and Woman, but that he as the first was responsible for the behaviors of that which was born from him. In a sense, Eve is Adam's daughter, and all crimes he does are effectively passed onto her as well. It's less that the man is being blamed as that so much as he is being blamed over the responsibility similar to that of a father figure. While the texts argue he is in a sense arguably more responsible, it is not 100% blame on him at all or else Eve would not have been punished as well. 

Why would God punish Eve if Eve was not to blame at all? 

^  this is what you are missing,  God punished Eve for her separate sins as an individual separately from Adam,  and all that her punishment was was sorrow and pain during childbearing

Adam's punishment was literally the cursing of the entire human race to death  This was not Eve's punishment,  this was never Eve's punishment  This was solely and seperately Adam's punishment for Adam's separate from Eve sins

JesusistheKing said: 

Turncoat said: 

Why would God punish Eve if Eve was not to blame at all? 

^  this is what you are missing,  God punished Eve for her separate sins as an individual separately from Adam,  and all that her punishment was was sorrow and pain during hildbearing

Adam's punishment was literally the cursing of the entire human race to death  This was not Eve's punishment,  this was never Eve's punishment  This was solely and seperately Adam's punishment for Adam's separate from Eve sins

 

They were punished together in spite of receiving different punishments over different things. Eve guided Adam's hand, but it was his responsibility to know better than to defy God as well as hers... without the knowledge of the fruit in advance, somehow. 

If Eve had eaten the apple by herself, how differently do you figure the story would have gone? 

JesusistheKing said: 

JesusistheKing said: 

Spatial,  when you make it out like women have some sort of "irresistible power of seduction and deception",  you are actually giving away your power to Satan and to the temptation of sinning and this is not good for yourself or for any men

 

^  and when women see a man that is going to tell her that she has all of that power,  she is probably going to begin thinking of him as weak naturally because he is behaving weak  and then take advantage because of his weakness,  but If he was putting God and God's commandments first,  he would be that strong respectable leader for her

 

 

 

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 Oh yes I know all about that. 

Some women have some power over some guys. I've been there myself, but now I'm free of that.

I still admire an attractive woman, but I won't really trust them unless there's equal give and take, or if she handles most of the bills.

I can't speak for the younger guys following their penis.

Turncoat said: 

JesusistheKing said: 

Turncoat said: 

Why would God punish Eve if Eve was not to blame at all? 

^  this is what you are missing,  God punished Eve for her separate sins as an individual separately from Adam,  and all that her punishment was was sorrow and pain during hildbearing

Adam's punishment was literally the cursing of the entire human race to death  This was not Eve's punishment,  this was never Eve's punishment  This was solely and seperately Adam's punishment for Adam's separate from Eve sins

 

They were punished together in spite of receiving different punishments over different things. Eve guided Adam's hand, but it was his responsibility to know better than to defy God as well as hers... without the knowledge of the fruit in advance, somehow. 

If Eve had eaten the apple by herself, how differently do you figure the story would have gone? 

I am assuming that Eve would have been put out of the garden alone,  and God would have created a new wife for Adam  but I cannot speak for God what he would do  It is an interesting question though

Dove said: 

JesusistheKing said: 

JesusistheKing said: 

Spatial,  when you make it out like women have some sort of "irresistible power of seduction and deception",  you are actually giving away your power to Satan and to the temptation of sinning and this is not good for yourself or for any men

 

^  and when women see a man that is going to tell her that she has all of that power,  she is probably going to begin thinking of him as weak naturally because he is behaving weak  and then take advantage because of his weakness,  but If he was putting God and God's commandments first,  he would be that strong respectable leader for her

 

 

 

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 Oh yes I know all about that. 

Some women have some power over some guys. I've been there myself, but now I'm free of that.

I still admire an attractive woman, but I won't really trust them unless there's equal give and take, or if she handles most of the bills.

I can't speak for the younger guys following their penis.

I am glad that we can agree on this then  :)

JesusistheKing said: 

Turncoat said: 

JesusistheKing said: 

Turncoat said: 

Why would God punish Eve if Eve was not to blame at all? 

^  this is what you are missing,  God punished Eve for her separate sins as an individual separately from Adam,  and all that her punishment was was sorrow and pain during hildbearing

Adam's punishment was literally the cursing of the entire human race to death  This was not Eve's punishment,  this was never Eve's punishment  This was solely and seperately Adam's punishment for Adam's separate from Eve sins

 

They were punished together in spite of receiving different punishments over different things. Eve guided Adam's hand, but it was his responsibility to know better than to defy God as well as hers... without the knowledge of the fruit in advance, somehow. 

If Eve had eaten the apple by herself, how differently do you figure the story would have gone? 

I am assuming that Eve would have been put out of the garden alone,  and God would have created a new wife for Adam  but I cannot speak for God what he would do  It is an interesting question though

See, based on the passages I'd think he'd still be blamed, since unlike Lilith she came from him. 

I like how you clarify in the title that Adam was the man and the Eve was the woman, for those that don't know.