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Adam (man) caused humanity to become cursed to death, not Eve (woman)


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Genesis 3:17-19


17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;

19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

 

Romans 5:12

12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

 

1 Corinthians 15:22

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

 

 

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They are both to blame, but the bible has a tendency to show the wives of their stories as misguided to give the narrative room to blame the man for not keeping her in line. 

Ultimately I still sit on all fault going to the serpent, as blaming humans for eating apples at that stage of our development is like blaming a dog or cat or something for doing an entirely natural behavior. They hadn't even eaten from the tree of knowledge of good and evil yet, they had no means of discerning right from wrong beyond two people telling them different things. 

If Adam is to blame for not keeping Eve in line, since she is of his rib while he is of the dirt, then I conclude that the dirt and God must be just as much to blame. Even further, God had to have known in advance that they'd eat from the tree and He had to put it there for them to eat from in the first place, lending to me believing that He wanted us to eat from the tree as an excuse to cast us out of Eden, similarly to how God found reason to turn his best Angel into Lucifer. 

Seriously, if every act of God has an intent that follows God's Plan, why did He put that tree there? 

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last edit on 6/1/2022 12:07:13 AM
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Genesis 3:17-19


17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
 

 Fellas. Don't listen to her or else you'll fall, and get the blame.

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Dove said: 

Genesis 3:17-19


17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
 

 Fellas. Don't listen to her or else you'll fall, and get the blame.

 

^  This disproves absolutely positively nothing,  It was 100 percent Adam's (the man's) responsibility to listen to and trust God first and foremost and before and above and more than his wife Eve (the woman)

 

The man is supposed to be the leader, and to not give in to any form of temptation no matter what the cause of the temptation is. The man knew that God did not want him to sin, and he chose to sin anyway  and it was 100 percent his responsibility and his fault and no one else's. God makes this clear   when he gives the woman and the man separate punishments

 

 God did not punish them for each other's sins,  he punished them each separately and individually for their sins

 

 

last edit on 6/1/2022 12:27:11 AM
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You really will try to find any way to be able to tell yourself things aren't your own fault, whether through the personal lens or through the archetypes you find yourself belonging to. 

It's kind of marveling to watch as it advances further, that even tougher than anything else you've faced is your struggle to feel solely responsible for something, opting instead to hand off the blame to a scapegoat if you can and calling the entire process idiotic if you cannot. 

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Genesis 3:17

17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

 

^  Look,  Adam knew that he was eating of the tree  he was not just eating a piece of fruit innocently or God would not have said that he was being punished for purposefully disobeying one of God's commandments  It is not listening to his wife that was the problem, It was choosing to disobey one of God's commandments because his wife suggested it which was the transgression

 

last edit on 6/1/2022 12:33:56 AM
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Not trying to blame all of the problems of the world on men

 

You really will try to find any way to be able to tell yourself things aren't your own fault, whether through the personal lens or through the archetypes you find yourself belonging to. 

It's kind of marveling to watch as it advances further, that even tougher than anything else you've faced is your struggle to feel solely responsible for something, opting instead to hand off the blame to a scapegoat if you can and calling the entire process idiotic if you cannot. 

 

Excuse me ?  All that I did was point out an explicit irrefutable truth of this scriptures  It had nothing to do with me trying to escape responsibility,  It had to do with clarifying that I and every other woman in the world should only be taking responsibility for what is actually truly genuinely our responsibility as descendents of Eve the first human woman,  which is one of the most important components of healthy boundaries

 

I am the first spiritual female,  but I am still a descendent of Eve the first human woman now that I have been incarnated into a human body and I am not going to enable her to be falsely accused of anything !  🙎‍♀️😡

 

 

last edit on 6/1/2022 12:41:32 AM
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A lot of your material you use to justify how you aren't to blame and have no responsibility to things, whether it's done directly or tangentially through at least three degrees of separation ala archetypes. 

Why does who is responsible for the apple even really matter? 

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A lot of your material you use to justify how you aren't to blame and have no responsibility to things, whether it's done directly or tangentially through at least three degrees of separation ala archetypes. 

Why does who is responsible for the apple even really matter? 

 

I do not agree, like at all, and I believe that it matters very much and I just explained why,  because I believe that having healthy boundaries and taking responsible for your own individual behavior and freewill decisions is important

 

 

last edit on 6/1/2022 12:43:55 AM
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