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Xena said: 

Oh game theory

Game Theory is just a part of it, a way of looking at the factors. Your answer was otherwise on topic. 🙂

Ethics& Political Philosophy class was over 10 years ago :P

It's an interesting thought question on the nature of Altruism, I found it originally from a Bioware game that tries to gauge your alignment. 

That was one of the most annoying things about Philosophy, imo.

Those Ivory Tower nerds knew nothing about how to promote social cohesion among outcasts. 

It really depends on which philosophy, but I do agree that a certain pretension tends to follow once they begin referring to big-sounding names moreso than group behaviors. 

Codes like Don't. Ever. Rat. exist to lessen the damage that the former do to the latter.

That and it serves to counter the system those who'd aim to put you in trouble put in place; From the police perspective it's the least helpful outcome, and the splitting people apart strat is there to sweat them that much more. 

It's interesting to see how cop opinion creeps into the choice. 

Canary said: 

The no snitch rule paves the way for evil.

Interesting statement, why do you figure that is? 

I'd figure that it'd work more in favor of lawlessness than outright evil, but I guess part of my reasoning is over how I don't want some dude who spent half a decade getting educated in prison coming for me later. 

Turncoat said: 

Xena said: 

Oh game theory

Game Theory is just a part of it, a way of looking at the factors. Your answer was otherwise on topic. 🙂

Ethics& Political Philosophy class was over 10 years ago :P

It's an interesting thought question on the nature of Altruism, I found it originally from a Bioware game that tries to gauge your alignment. 

 

No, I studied these concepts in a classroom with an actual professor  :P

Just like John Rawls' "Original Position" is such a famous thought experiment that every second year humanities student knows it, so is the one you're referring to. Fat guy in the cave, axe murderer at the door. You know what I'm talking about.

The guy who originally penned the "would you rat?" experiment used a freakin punnet square to predict the results (the odds of both or neither going to jail.)

But his knowledge of criminal activity is too tone deaf to even be coming from a law student.

The guy's reasoning reminded me a little of Johnny 5, actually. I wondered if he was on the spectrum or smthg :P

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melvin_Dresher

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrill_M._Flood

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_W._Tucker

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAND_Corporation

Games of Strategy Theory and Applications

Contributions to the Theory of Games

Payoff Matrix

Turncoat said: 

You're with someone you'd consider a friend that you've known now for at least a month and have encountered complications with the law. 

You and your friend are taken in by the police and separated. 

If you both remain silent, you each will receive one year in prison. 

If you however say your friend was involved with the crime in question, they will serve five years while you serve none. 

Your friend is offered the same deal, but if you both accuse the other, you both will serve two years. 

What do you do? What do you trust them to do? 

There's always the Keyser Soze option of blaming a 3rd fictitious dude, but I've personally only ever had that wildly backfire. In a forced binary, silence.

One thing I don't get about game theory tho - maybe you math people can elucidate - how is it ever a 50/50 scenario? Humans are erratic af, there's a big spectrum between silence and ratting. 

Max_Power said: 

Turncoat said: 

You're with someone you'd consider a friend that you've known now for at least a month and have encountered complications with the law. 

You and your friend are taken in by the police and separated. 

If you both remain silent, you each will receive one year in prison. 

If you however say your friend was involved with the crime in question, they will serve five years while you serve none. 

Your friend is offered the same deal, but if you both accuse the other, you both will serve two years. 

What do you do? What do you trust them to do? 

There's always the Keyser Soze option of blaming a 3rd fictitious dude, but I've personally only ever had that wildly backfire. In a forced binary, silence.

One thing I don't get about game theory tho - maybe you math people can elucidate - how is it ever a 50/50 scenario? Humans are erratic af, there's a big spectrum between silence and ratting. 

How practically relevant is game theory (stackexchange)

Why Study Game Theory when it has Limited Practical Applications in Real Life? (Cornell blog)

is game theory useful? (Turing's Invisable Hand)

I personally view game theory as a research program whose fruit bared the seeds that blossomed into research programs with real applications.