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Tryptamine said: 

Turncoat said: 

Tryptamine said: 

cx3 said: 

The message is there, but the way this guy goes about it is completely wrong.

How so? I've seen a lot of negative reaction to him in this video on the Internet. I have my own opinions and think he is making some missteps, but it seems to me like most people just don't like that he was mean or pushy in the video.

He is much more prepared for being on camera than she is, her eyes keep being surprisingly open and revealing while he tries to control the situation with an unbreaking stare. 

He seems used to getting his way for the wrong reasons, and some of his preferences if she's not into it would be pretty unhealthy for her psyche. He's treating a lot of this more like power plays rather than a real discussion, an assentation of his position within the guise of reason but done with forceful tone. 

Do you think what he was saying was wrong?

So far anyway how he's going about it is wrong, and what he wants the relationship to be is clearly not what she's after. The synergy here is pretty abysmal, yet he acts like he's just entitled to shit like sex from her whenever he wants it, saying she is not entitled to the word 'No'. Some part of his eyes look to be getting off to her struggling too, while she keeps trying to mentally retreat into her cat for sanctuary from his affect. 

7 minutes in so far as to take it in installments instead of all at once so that I don't miss as much, but unless he makes some face heel turn part way into the video I don't see this going to good places. He basically interrupts and at times even avoids her points to restate his own, and what's more tragic about it is not over how he's keeping her there so much as how she's unlikely to leave. 

Some people are into what he's about, but that's not her. She clearly is struggling to communicate with someone who will not listen. His point about how it'd either destroy the relationship or become 'entirely platonic' if she didn't comply with his wishes over him agreeing to monogamy was him trying to not even really go there and move onto points he'd prefer to talk about, showing more and more how he's used to continuous talking until he wears them down to get his way. 

Comparing her to a sex doll with the specific language he uses to would be internalized all kinds of weirdly by the receiving end, too. She's clearly not into Bimbo Fetishism sexdoll roleplay, but there must be something else to it or else why is she with him? 

Oh, if and when you finish it you may see things a bit differently. He explains what he means that she can't say no, etc.

Tryptamine said: 

Oh, if and when you finish it you may see things a bit differently. He explains what he means that she can't say no, etc.

Is a well sounding explanation superior to his willingness to listen to her and the power plays he's clearly getting off to here? 

Again, he strikes me as someone who restates his opinion unbendingly over and over until he gets his way from wearing them down. Her expressions tell such a story here, and in a messed up way so do his when you compare it to how he composes himself in other videos. 

He kinda gives me sadist vibes honestly, if not some messy twist on domming, which I can't blame for solely so much as over how it comes out in this situation when paired with a stubborn disposition over what he wants. I question if he picked someone like her rather than one who'd more readily comply in order to watch her spirit break, as he looks positively delighted when she's uncomfortable. 

Well, his explanation—that a relationship as they have now is contingent on sex—is a valid one.

She makes... a lot of faces that show her internalizing this situation differently from the words he's saying. She knows these explanations, she's heard them before, he's explaining them for us, his audience. 

Trying to make her jealous of the doll an outlet for him, I can't even. Seriously her eyes look done with his shit, but she keeps sitting through it anyway and even laughing when she's given cues to think that's what he wants while her eyes aren't in it at all, going through the motions almost. She doesn't want to be compared to something less than human, and then he proceeds to explain why he needs her to do that for him to get off, but I see him more enjoying what this discussion's doing to her than actually trying to have a real chat that's meant for her. 

He's basically mocking her moans even in front of an audience and she's just supposed to be okay with that. He doesn't miss a beat either with how much he keeps trying to make her out to be selfish, we're seeing low key abuse in it's later forms, the forms where she's had to sit through enough of it to not even be shocked by it anymore from having been constantly corrected for speaking out. He's saying it can't even be 11% for her when they fuck or he'll just take it like she's doing it for herself, what the fuck kind of dom control freak issues are those? 

Also just noticed between 7:50 and 7:51 and around 8:14... it seems that someone's clipping the discussions to make them appear a certain way. If he's the editor that's even more suspicious imo, especially while he's going off about how he's entitled to power plays she did not sign up for.


"When it's not for you you get upset, and then I know it's for me" what the fuck I can't even. 

Tryptamine said: 

Well, his explanation—that a relationship as they have now is contingent on sex—is a valid one.

It's not just that they have sex, it's that they have to have it his way, and his way is liable to do psychological damages to her as she continues to put up with it while unable to fetishize it. Why she doesn't leave though is the bigger mystery, he's not keeping her there with shackles or even a wedding ring, as his mindset is only healthy towards those who are into that sort of control freak (they exist, check fetlife, lots of them). 

He meanwhile is legit getting off to her struggle over this, even wanting the doll to make her jealous. This shit is far from healthy, and he likely doesn't want to find a true sub over how she'd be as accomodating as his dolls. 

Seriously, he wants to have her around to see her feelings, as he seems to think the dolls cover just about everything else. He's getting off to breaking her down more than the sex itself while jabbing at every little thing she does when there's openings as fast talk to not let her get a word in edgewise. He also sounds like that chill form of scolding, like when a teacher or parent is talking to a misbehaving child, rather than even trying to actually talk to her about it, which has a way of implying they're stupid which, with a weak enough ego and enough repetition, will become internalized and accepted. 

Seriously a lot of this is him going on about how she's not allowed to enjoy it, I only see that shit normally from Chastity Cage culture. He's sitting there like "People think you're sad, because of me", then follows up with how she can't enjoy stuff if he's to enjoy stuff. He's using compromise language without actually compromising by stating things as if he's already doing it and whining about how much he sees her getting her way when... I don't know about that. 

It's as if he wants her to comply by acting like he already puts up with so much, but she's putting up with way more. He's doing like legitimately 9/10 the talking here. Her disgust over this "Act of service" as she puts it is something she is in the right to feel. She's even in the warning sign stage where her friends are becoming increasingly concerned, this isn't fine, and this video almost seems like it could be a super weird form of damage control. Edit: Mmm, no he's using it to increase pressure and increase his odds of getting what he wants. 

"I see, so it's an... so it's an act of service?" 

"I don't give a fuck what you call it. The more you talk, the more you ruin it." 


Just holy shit, and this after attacking her for moaning and enjoying it. 

11:50: "Do you see how controlling you are?" What the fuck I can't even right now.

She asked a question about the timeframes to be sure she doesn't screw up, stuttering a bit even, and he's already ready to ram his agenda further down her throat and call her a bitch for not letting him have his way... while she is in the process of giving into his demands. 

All the clipping though makes me uneasy, her explaining herself around 12:20-ish has her cut off. The edits could be hiding how elements of the conversation really went. It follows up with "So why are you not responding", with tone that sounds like she said a lot of things, but the video only shows a little bit of it. Edit: And very blatantly when she's defending herself at 16:21... hm. 

...then he calls her controlling again, and then a third time when she escapes having to be doll fucked that month (and then like five more times across the interview). This dude holy shit, "You already, you're ruining it", this guy's the controlling one. 

Jeez the more he talks, so many red flags. He's legit saying her feelings aren't his problem now, and that it should be more like masturbation. He has no patience for her at all, like none, even when it's over her complying with his demands. 

Great video by the way, this shit's very forward. The disgust I feel from some of this is very real. 

I really hope Spatial calling this dude a genius was from him only seeing a few seconds or something, as this dude's presenting horribly. 

Wow I need a lot of breaks for this material, the bit at 13:28, just wow. The way he shuts her down is really disrespectful. 

He's either horrible or really good at pretending to be. 

Edit: 16:35... it'd seem that he made it about the sex schedule when they tried this once before and it failed, why did he feel the need to do it a second time with a camera, to make her feel vulnerable and more likely to give in to his demands? 

Edit 2: Oh god she doesn't even want this uploaded when it's embarrassing her over how it proves the abuse, shows how weak she's been around him and what their dynamic is like. I don't see how this could possibly be salvaged where he doesn't look like the bad guy short of "You just got punked!". 

Edit 3: How is he still on this "feeling controlled" thing at this point, it's absurd. What, she can't even ask questions now without 'ruining it'? 

Edit 4: ...he doesn't even want to make her feel better emotionally, what is this dude on? Even BDSM does Aftercare and shit and she's been having to rub the 'soothing balm' on him this entire interview. 

Edit 5: 17:45 is pretty intense... and her attempt to try to handle his behavior starts finally melting around 18:31.



She's finally worn down, and trying to actually engage with this madness. Him being like "Okay so we can't have a real conversation" here, wtf he's the one who can't have one while she's trying her best to handle it while he's telling her to stop talking and even snapped at her to shut up at one point. She can't even ask the dude questions without him being all "you're ruining itttt". 

Edit 6: 19:25, lol wait he knows he's being controlling, and he's fighting to not have to shoulder any of the weight of the relationship? What does he figure her role is in this? Plus how can he be all like "I'm pushing your boundaries by asking you a question?", that's borderline gas lighting he's trying to make her feel like she's being hysterical when he started off so out of line. 

If she said 'No' to his needs like he's ranting about her having the freedom to do, we'd just be going back to his whole thing about how she's only entitled so many 'No's. He literally is saying he does not want to feel like he has boundaries... while saying he has to know she's bound. The reciprocity is simply not there, she's having to handle him while he moans and groans if even 11% of it's not as he'd like. 

Edit 7: 22:30ish in... and... giving in to his tantrum. I'll give her at least that she's still holding to her own perspective, she will not just say 'yes' to move on which good on her, but he really would rather she be seen and not heard like one of the animals out of Wicked. 

She's seeing that he isn't going to get it, again, which is just tragic. She's dousing off the moment of passion she found herself in and remembering how it went before. She's trying to detach from dealing with the situation, then we see more editing of whatever she said or did (probably crying) and are brought back to this: 



"Okay, well, if that's how it is, then I don't see what else there is left to talk about" after whatever was cut out of the footage... 

She needs to get out of there. "I need you to find a way to negotiate things with me" when this dude's not even willing to let her talk or ask questions, jeez. How is this even on her to do and not him in this matter? 

Edit 8: Aaand even more edits, this is getting less-than journalistic. 

Edit 9: "I want to know, that whatever you feel while I'm fucking you, is your problem."

Yeahhh... even the BDSM community would not abide by this. 

Edit 10: He is reframing this... really weirdly. 

...wtf did he cut out at 27:34? He sounded like he was about to ramp into an emotional rebuttal about how bad she is to him, over her saying "I don't do this to you", and then it cuts to an entirely unrelated moment. 

Lol he talks about how being seen as an abusive psycho will make him defensive, then maybe don't do that? Then he calls her an abusive psycho (28:09) what is this dude on? 

Tryptamine said: 

Turncoat said: 

Tryptamine said: 

cx3 said: 

The message is there, but the way this guy goes about it is completely wrong.

How so? I've seen a lot of negative reaction to him in this video on the Internet. I have my own opinions and think he is making some missteps, but it seems to me like most people just don't like that he was mean or pushy in the video.

He is much more prepared for being on camera than she is, her eyes keep being surprisingly open and revealing while he tries to control the situation with an unbreaking stare. 

He seems used to getting his way for the wrong reasons, and some of his preferences if she's not into it would be pretty unhealthy for her psyche. He's treating a lot of this more like power plays rather than a real discussion, an assentation of his position within the guise of reason but done with forceful tone. 

Do you think what he was saying was wrong?

Yeah actually, the guy's making mountains out of molehills over his own struggles while constantly telling her to shut up and just take it.