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Kestrel said: 

This is actually a measure to allow people to afford housing. 

Kansas already has second lowest cost of living in the nation, 28% lower than the national average, net average rent is like $890 for a 2 bedroom. But recently because of people buying houses enmasse and turning them into living spaces for 4-5 people it's drastically hiked the housing market. The local government fears the economy wont be able to match the demand, housing prices have spiked over 14% in the last year alone.

They're looking after their own with this measure and keeping housing affordable to the average resident, I imagine more red states will have to implement similar measures to avoid the inflated housing conditions of more populated states.

 Shawnee is an affluent city, a topic that's been brought up over and over has been fear mongering talks of immigrants and working class people bringing property value down if they're allowed to rent in homes with other adults.

 

Renters in Shawnee are paying 30% or more of their paychecks compared to homeowners that pay about 14% 

Especially with the way coronavirus impacted people's livelihoods, their jobs and savings lots of people are still building up and rent of $300 per room is affordable compared to 890$

It's in response to HomeRoom a Kansas based company that decided craigslist roommate ads are actually not all that great didn't offer renters the ability to be comfortable in checking out room situations. It also offers homeowners the ability to lease out a room in their homes with the same protections of verifying tenants and having people come to inspect the property. 

The ordinance isn't limited to single family homes. It's not limited to anything like size of the home or number of rooms, it's a blanket ordinance with carefully chosen words as Dwelling Unit.

In addition this would take away affordable housing options

last edit on 5/6/2022 7:56:43 AM
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Oh okay, I thought this bill was a state wide deal. As a person who's grown up around and preferring rural areas, I naturally tend to be more dismissive at the thought of more people coming in and far more sympathetic to people keeping the integrity of their living spaces. 

I've seen this type of thing in person when I lived in Montana a bit ago, you'll have people essentially buy up single family homes and carve them into sub-par living spaces for 3 people but the rent will still be like 70% of what the mortgage just would've been for each person. Which drastically does just raise property value for obvious reasons.

I do feel like you shouldn't be able to tell people who they can or cant live with at the end of the day. This is clearly a pretty badly worded bill, that should at the least be directed more at the predatory people looking to do what I mentioned above and less at people just wanting roommates. It'll be interesting to see how this turns out in the future nonetheless

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last edit on 5/6/2022 8:18:49 AM
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This is happening all over, they're criminalizing poverty.

On a related note, Louisiana has written a bill that could see mothers and "abortionists" jailed for murder. Imagine that, an impoverished teenage girl charged for murder because she tried to abort her abusive ex or rapists fetus. 

It's fucking riot season. 

(Above link: https://fox17.com/news/local/tennessee-to-make-homeless-camps-on-public-land-a-felony)

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Blanc said: 

America is slowly becoming less free

When was America ever free? Everything here costs so much. 

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Outro said: 

This is happening all over, they're criminalizing poverty.

On a related note, Louisiana has written a bill that could see mothers and "abortionists" jailed for murder. Imagine that, an impoverished teenage girl charged for murder because she tried to abort her abusive ex or rapists fetus. 

It's fucking riot season. 

(Above link: https://fox17.com/news/local/tennessee-to-make-homeless-camps-on-public-land-a-felony)

 Yup, El Salvador has very strict abortion laws that are fucking awful regardless of your background. Ofc if you're wealthy you can just travel up and go get one anyways or afford a private hospital but if you're living in poverty you'll go to jail even if it was a miscarriage. 

 

El Salvador outlaws abortion completely, even in circumstances of rape or incest, with penalties ranging from two to 50 years. The abortion ban is so broadly enforced that even women who suffer miscarriages and stillbirths can be prosecuted for murder.

 

It's illegal with absolutely no exceptions.

 

Abortion was made illegal in El Salvador in all circumstances in 1997.

 This was reinforced two years later by a Constitutional amendment declaring that life begins at conception. 

Among the small number of countries that maintain a complete ban, only in El Salvador has law enforcement led to women being sent to prison for 30 to 40 years. To date more than 150 women and girls have been prosecuted. More than 28 women are currently serving out cruelly long sentences.

 The country’s penal code mandates a 12-year sentence for women convicted of having an abortion. But if a miscarried or stillborn fetus is deemed viable by the courts, women are prosecuted for aggravated homicide.

 In one case, a 40-year prison term was handed to a woman who miscarried at 18 weeks.

 Many women jailed for miscarriages did not even know they were pregnant.

 Women have been criminalized for obstetric emergencies because judges accept contradictory or non-existent evidence that they intended to either end the pregnancy or kill an early-term fetus.

 

It is precisely the flimsiness of these cases that has enabled sentences to eventually be overturned through strenuous efforts of organizations like the Citizens’ Coalition for the Decriminalization of Abortion.

 In addition to this clear violation of women’s civil rights, the extremist application of the law imposes harms to health and life.

 For example, Salvadoran doctors have refused to intervene medically when a pregnancy endangers a woman’s life, as in the case of ectopic pregnancy. This is when a fertilized egg becomes lodged in the fallopian tube, leading to rupture and lethal internal bleeding if untreated. In such cases doctors have stood by until the tube ruptures.

 There are particular harms for very young girls and teens. Girls as young as nine years old have been denied therapeutic abortion.

 

 I'm wondering if this is what US prolifers would prefer. And then you've got this piece of shit telling you his hands are tied and it's up to you the voter to vote in pro choice officials this November. 

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It's easy to talk about this stuff but when you're paying 10 million usd for your house, do you want hobos and immigrants to live at your doorstep? No, you don't.

Sorry but you're not living in the real world.

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bastard said: 

It's easy to talk about this stuff but when you're paying 10 million usd for your house, do you want hobos and immigrants to live at your doorstep? No, you don't.

Sorry but you're not living in the real world.

 By taking away affordable housing options you are making it so "hobos and immigrants" live at your doorstep.

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You see that happen so well when you compare Homeland and West Baltimore. All the poor black people and hobos live in Homeland alongside the rich people. Oh wait that doesn't happen.

but jokes aside you can just connect your garden sprinklers to pepper spray tanks and make use of some hostile design to deter hobos if all else fails.

last edit on 5/6/2022 4:42:16 PM
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bastard said: 

You see that happen so well when you compare Homeland and West Baltimore. All the poor black people and hobos live in Homeland alongside the rich people. Oh wait that doesn't happen.

but jokes aside you can just connect your garden sprinklers to pepper spray tanks and make use of some hostile design to deter hobos if all else fails.

 Do the rich people work the minimum wage jobs in the city? You know like food service and retail? 

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Food service and retail? Eww no.

Who do you think does that work? The hobos at your doorstep?

In all seriousness there's no way people actually enjoy living next to drug addicts and the lower class. It's something we all have to say to stay politically correct but nobody takes this stuff seriously. Did you read about those billionaires at Davos? They talk about equality, justification and blabla philanthropy this and that and then fly there with private jets and enjoy their tax havens in the Cayman Islands.

You would be doing the same shit if you were in their shoes but you just unfortunatley got the short straw so you're not seeing the big picture.

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