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Turncoat said: 

Whatever you need to make yourself feel better dude. 

More like whatever makes you feel better since you're the only one who boasts I have a dark past on here. 

Literally, you're the only one. 

Do you see there being more to the 'stroll together' than the Proximity Principle? 

 Your question goes to show how narrow your vision is. You just want me to elaborate on their strolling, then provoke me for whatever I have to say about it in detail. 

What if I told you Friedrich and his friend, aren't really friends ?

Spatial Mind said: 

Turncoat said: 

Whatever you need to make yourself feel better dude. 

More like whatever makes you feel better since you're the only one who boasts I have a dark past on here. 

Literally, you're the only one. 

Again, whatever you need to make yourself feel better dude. I just struggle to watch you unintentionally lying to people over the lies you constantly tell yourself. I figured by showcasing your history that you'd be forced to apply that information in relation to yourself, seeing as that tends to work on others anyway, but you've already shown yourself to be impervious to truth. 

What if I told you Friedrich and his friend, aren't really friends?

I'd probably ask for elaboration over you being intentionally vague. 

Do you see there being more to the 'stroll together' than the Proximity Principle? 

Your question goes to show how narrow your vision is.

When it comes to asking another's perspective, rather than presume that we see things the same I generally find more success in asking for their take on something rather than flooding the topic with my own immediately. 

You just want me to elaborate on their strolling, then provoke me for whatever I have to say about it in detail. 

Yes, I would love to have more details on your theories here. I've even presented 'The Proximity Principle' as a comparison, whether to confirm that you only meant that aspect of social psychology or if you might have been looking at it from a different angle entirely. 

I'm literally asking for your take on it but you seem reluctant to part with it, as if you're worried it'd not be hard to pick apart or something. If tearing it down proves to be provocative then that'd just mean you elaborating further on your ideas right? 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

Turncoat said: 

Whatever you need to make yourself feel better dude. 

More like whatever makes you feel better since you're the only one who boasts I have a dark past on here. 

Literally, you're the only one. 

Again, whatever you need to make yourself feel better dude. I just struggle to watch you unintentionally lying to people over the lies you constantly tell yourself.

Literally you're the only one. This is a fact. I know why you do it too.

And what lies do I tell myself, Turncoat ? ( This is where you say something like "We've been over it a million times, I have your history must I show it again ? *never shows it* )

This is not "Whatever makes me feel better" as you really are, the only SC member accusing me of having some shady history of being some monster. Given your history, I'd reckon it helps you feel better to paint pictures of me. Like I never asked why CP was a bad thing like you did, nor do I take pleasure in bullying others like you have in the past. 

I figured by showcasing your history that you'd be forced to apply that information in relation to yourself, seeing as that tends to work on others anyway, but you've already shown yourself to be impervious to truth. 

But you never do showcase my history. Yes TC, do it. Confront me. I've been curious to know what exactly is this thing you claim to hold against me for several weeks now.

What if I told you Friedrich and his friend, aren't really friends?

I'd probably ask for elaboration over you being intentionally vague. 

 He made that clear in the OP.

Turncoat said: 

Do you see there being more to the 'stroll together' than the Proximity Principle? 

Your question goes to show how narrow your vision is.

When it comes to asking another's perspective, rather than presume that we see things the same I generally find more success in asking for their take on something rather than flooding the topic with my own immediately. 

You can spin it however you wish. When asked I'd say you're baiting me. ( Yet again )

You just want me to elaborate on their strolling, then provoke me for whatever I have to say about it in detail. 

Yes, I would love to have more details on your theories here. I've even presented 'The Proximity Principle' as a comparison, whether to confirm that you only meant that aspect of social psychology or if you might have been looking at it from a different angle entirely. 

This proximity principle within itself is loaded. I'd say close proximity is obviously the case, but I never based what I wrote on that while passing it off such a principle "nothing more"

I'm literally asking for your take on it but you seem reluctant to part with it, as if you're worried it'd not be hard to pick apart or something. If tearing it down proves to be provocative then that'd just mean you elaborating further on your ideas right? 

 Yes I'm reluctant to part with what exactly ? I nearly forgot, but I know I'm reluctant about you in general. It's been about 10 years. I don't expect intelligent conversation with you. It's already gotten ridiculous, this is Friedrich's thread, you should be asking him questions if you haven't an answer for him.

I wrote what I wrote. It isn't complicated. Your perception about what I wrote may seem like magical thinking, but it isn't. It's just a reflection on what Friedrich wrote.

Am I supposed to compare what I wrote to the Proximity Principle ? What is the divide exactly ? This Proximity Principle is in effect by default. 

In higher grades, students are expected to have a certain amount of knowledge TC. But with you I have to step away from progressive communications, and discuss what is that ? grade 2 maybe. Answering questions within questions within questions, going on for pages in walls of texts. I'm not always up for that.

Spatial Mind said: 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

Turncoat said: 

Whatever you need to make yourself feel better dude. 

More like whatever makes you feel better since you're the only one who boasts I have a dark past on here. 

Literally, you're the only one. 

Again, whatever you need to make yourself feel better dude. I just struggle to watch you unintentionally lying to people over the lies you constantly tell yourself.

Literally you're the only one. This is a fact. I know why you do it too.

Some days I'm 'the only one', on other days it's 'other people believing my lies', and on days where others confront you you seemingly forget it almost immediately afterwards. When push comes to shove you appeal to some illusory bandwagon, forgetting all past arguments and not accounting for surface level pleasantries, the polite presentations they'll do to your face but then act as otherwise when you're not there to see their words.

You don't really hold onto anything that's said that'd serve to tarnish your believed sense of self, even when it comes from those who are close to you it'd seem. You're so consumed by your own narrative, only open enough to people who'd aim to contribute towards it rather than correct it. You don't even seem to notice when the narrative changes mid-story. 

This is not "Whatever makes me feel better" as you really are, the only SC member accusing me of having some shady history of being some monster. Given your history, I'd reckon it helps you feel better to paint pictures of me. Like I never asked why CP was a bad thing like you did, nor do I take pleasure in bullying others like you have in the past. 

And this is where you attempt to appeal to a pecking order of reputation as reason for why yourself and others shouldn't bother taking in an outside opinion. You've been corrected over what that topic was about more than once but even now you still default on this version of 'the CP story'. 

It's classic ad hom, genetic fallacies, and you always fall on it rather than visit the arguments themselves. It's how you shield yourself from others' data, like the Flying Monkeys scenario you've been avoiding talking about lately. Rather than face unpleasant thoughts you fixate entirely on why you shouldn't have to take their opinions into account, then seemingly just forget anything was ever said if you even bothered to read it in the first place. 

You're kinda hopeless and my struggle now is realizing that enough to let go of this effort. 

And what lies do I tell myself, Turncoat ? ( This is where you say something like "We've been over it a million times, I have your history must I show it again ? *never shows it* )

I figured by showcasing your history that you'd be forced to apply that information in relation to yourself, seeing as that tends to work on others anyway, but you've already shown yourself to be impervious to truth. 

But you never do showcase my history.

Yes TC, do it. Confront me. I've been curious to know what exactly is this thing you claim to hold against me for several weeks now.

See I'm legitimately baffled every time you say stuff like this. 

I've done this multiple times already in the past with you even having retaliations and flip outs as a response to it... and you keep coming at me like it never happened. It's like some sort of reverse Groundhog Day scenario where you're the one stuck in the same day mentally while everyone else around you continues on. 

I don't know how to help you at this point and feel like I'm stuck just having you live like this. 

What if I told you Friedrich and his friend, aren't really friends?

I'd probably ask for elaboration over you being intentionally vague. 

 He made that clear in the OP.

So you're meaning to tell me that in relation to the OP, rather than as a matter of your own opinion? 

Spatial Mind said: 

Turncoat said: 

Do you see there being more to the 'stroll together' than the Proximity Principle? 

Your question goes to show how narrow your vision is.

When it comes to asking another's perspective, rather than presume that we see things the same I generally find more success in asking for their take on something rather than flooding the topic with my own immediately. 

You can spin it however you wish. When asked I'd say you're baiting me. ( Yet again )

I'm just explaining how this isn't pure honeypot. 

From looking over our past discussions, I've seen that if I drop too much of my own opinion that you just shut down if not distract you over some nonsense. Rather than that, I'd prefer to get your version first so that it'll be that much easier to stay on topic. With how much you attempt to appeal to the 'common sense' narrative by being intentionally vague you're clearly trying to bait out presumptions from your audience rather than actually have a real discussion. 

You just want me to elaborate on their strolling, then provoke me for whatever I have to say about it in detail. 

Yes, I would love to have more details on your theories here. I've even presented 'The Proximity Principle' as a comparison, whether to confirm that you only meant that aspect of social psychology or if you might have been looking at it from a different angle entirely. 

This proximity principle within itself is loaded. I'd say close proximity is obviously the case, but I never based what I wrote on that while passing it off such a principle "nothing more"

What do you mean by 'loaded', like full of shit? 

What else do you figure's going on then, pheromones? 

I'm literally asking for your take on it but you seem reluctant to part with it, as if you're worried it'd not be hard to pick apart or something. If tearing it down proves to be provocative then that'd just mean you elaborating further on your ideas right? 

 Yes I'm reluctant to part with what exactly ? I nearly forgot

Your take on what's going on other than The Proximity Principle, focus. 

I don't expect intelligent conversation with you. It's already gotten ridiculous, this is Friedrich's thread, you should be asking him questions if you haven't an answer for him.

You're the one who's trying to not talk... 

In this case I'm asking for things that are on topic, but you can't seem to focus. 

I wrote what I wrote. It isn't complicated. Your perception about what I wrote may seem like magical thinking, but it isn't. It's just a reflection on what Friedrich wrote.

I didn't say anything about magical thinking at all, I've just been asking for elaboration.

Am I supposed to compare what I wrote to the Proximity Principle ? What is the divide exactly ? This Proximity Principle is in effect by default. 

What do you figure The Proximity Principle is..? 

In higher grades, students are expected to have a certain amount of knowledge TC. But with you I have to step away from progressive communications, and discuss what is that ? grade 2 maybe. Answering questions within questions within questions, going on for pages in walls of texts. I'm not always up for that.

When it comes to a comparison of perceptions both people need to have some canon of understanding between them. With you you have a habit of keeping things just vague enough for others to jump to conclusions, something I've seen stop working when you're otherwise asked to elaborate. This is something older users here used to have more patience with you over, questioning what you really meant as it'd turn into pages of you being defensively confused. 

I'm asking for the meat of your points rather than just the garnish you'd use to have others think you know what you're talking about. Like a Math teacher I'm asking you to explain your work instead of just writing down the answers, like an English teacher I'm asking you to narrate what you mean instead of presuming your audience to understand what's in your head, and like a Science teacher I'm asking you to show your data, trials, experiments, etc.

If you're going to compare this to school, they're the ones that actually tend to push that people show more rather than less. 

Turncoat said: 

And what lies do I tell myself, Turncoat ? ( This is where you say something like "We've been over it a million times, I have your history must I show it again ? *never shows it* )

I figured by showcasing your history that you'd be forced to apply that information in relation to yourself, seeing as that tends to work on others anyway, but you've already shown yourself to be impervious to truth. 

But you never do showcase my history.

Yes TC, do it. Confront me. I've been curious to know what exactly is this thing you claim to hold against me for several weeks now.

See I'm legitimately baffled every time you say stuff like this. 

I've done this multiple times already in the past with you even having retaliations and flip outs as a response to it... and you keep coming at me like it never happened. It's like some sort of reverse Groundhog Day scenario where you're the one stuck in the same day mentally while everyone else around you continues on. 

I don't know how to help you at this point and feel like I'm stuck just having you live like this. 

There you go, doing what I said you'd do. And now you're saying you've done this before and I flipped out on you. That's disgusting TC. 

I'll tell you straight up, you've never used anything I ever wrote against me. Not in Luna's SC, nor in the 2000 some odd posts I have here did you do anything of the sort. But really, I want you to.

Like what did I do ?

You like to say you have evidence of me and some misconduct, but you never show it, nor do you tell me what it is. I do think you're capable of fabricating bullshit though. You are being dishonest right now, and you're maintaining your dishonesty by avoiding my inquiry yet again. 

Flipping out isn't even my style. I hate that, and it would make me feel ashamed. Who even seen me go apeshit around here ?

It's like you want me to confirm something fictional, then carry on like I have no memory of some event of you roasting me with my own words but really, feel free to post your screenshots ( for a change ) and take your jab. Otherwise don't bring it up to me again, it's gotten old. 

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Here's what I think will happen if you did that. It'll be something I won't deny, nor would I change my stance on it.

Spatial Mind said: 

Turncoat said: 

And what lies do I tell myself, Turncoat ? ( This is where you say something like "We've been over it a million times, I have your history must I show it again ? *never shows it* )

I figured by showcasing your history that you'd be forced to apply that information in relation to yourself, seeing as that tends to work on others anyway, but you've already shown yourself to be impervious to truth. 

But you never do showcase my history.

Yes TC, do it. Confront me. I've been curious to know what exactly is this thing you claim to hold against me for several weeks now.

See I'm legitimately baffled every time you say stuff like this. 

I've done this multiple times already in the past with you even having retaliations and flip outs as a response to it... and you keep coming at me like it never happened. It's like some sort of reverse Groundhog Day scenario where you're the one stuck in the same day mentally while everyone else around you continues on. 

I don't know how to help you at this point and feel like I'm stuck just having you live like this. 

There you go, doing what I said you'd do. And now you're saying you've done this before and I flipped out on you. That's disgusting TC. 

I really don't know how you expect me to respond at this point. 

It's scarier that you aren't doing this on purpose. 

I'll tell you straight up, you've never used anything I ever wrote against me. Not in Luna's SC, nor in the 2000 some odd posts I have here did you do anything of the sort. But really, I want you to.

Like what did I do ?

You like to say you have evidence of me and some misconduct, but you never show it, nor do you tell me what it is. I do think you're capable of fabricating bullshit though. You are being dishonest right now, and you're maintaining your dishonesty by avoiding my inquiry yet again. 

Flipping out isn't even my style. I hate that, and it would make me feel ashamed. Who even seen me go apeshit around here ?

It's like you want me to confirm something fictional, then carry on like I have no memory of some event of you roasting me with my own words but really, feel free to post your screenshots ( for a change ) and take your jab. Otherwise don't bring it up to me again, it's gotten old. 

Guy, it's been a saga where I've more than once shown you these things. I don't know what to give you that won't have you just asking for it again and again like this, and it's my fault more than anything for being baited into thinking that you being confronted with this data might leave any kind of dent after these many times. It's just so hard as a chronic detail corrector to watch you spout falsehoods like that while not seeming to know the difference. Rather than closure the presentation of these things always just ramp up towards escalation, so I just need to accept as personal closure that there's no fixing your problem. 

The presentation of old quotes and screencaps has worked with others but it never works with you, you don't listen and worse than that you don't hold onto anything that isn't the reinforced construct 'hero' narrative. You instead lash out at the 'liars', appeal to conspiracy, stop reading it entirely, blame matters of their character as you allude to and post dox info, and post all of that no growth is accomplished. Literally hopeless to the degree of being pointless, and it's now an exercise in futility for me to learn how to not try to 'Fix It'. 

I'm sorry but through repeated trials you've shown that it does no good. 

Here's what I think will happen if you did that. It'll be something I won't deny, nor would I change my stance on it.

No you'd just say it's all lies and that you didn't read any of it anyway. 🤷

I'm not even sure why I'm still entertaining this.