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How hard is it to Care?


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On my two month road trip I met a surprising amount of people and heard a lot of stories, but often they'd have moments where they constantly had to affirm that they didn't have feelings, that they didn't care. 

"I Don't Care" has to be one of the most toxic phrases against Introspection, a way to bury their feelings instead of growing to understand them, and often when I would explain why caring is harder to do that'd be like a lockpick for a bunch of buried shit they felt like they couldn't talk about with their friends. Groupthink keeps the notion alive, even with phrases like "I was just kidding" when it gets too personal to essentially say "We shouldn't care". 

What makes it so hard for people to care about stuff these days, or at least what makes it so difficult for them to admit to themselves? Why is caring seen as weakness?

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Caring means diverting part of your limited attention to the subject, which identifies you with it. That implies that your time is as valuable as the subject you care about, which can be a shameful in our time obsessed society where we're obsessed with perfect time management. It basically devalues the most critical quality of the modern lifestyle.  

It's why people pretend to be busy and glorify workaholism. 

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On my two month road trip I met a surprising amount of people and heard a lot of stories, but often they'd have moments where they constantly had to affirm that they didn't have feelings, that they didn't care. 

"I Don't Care" has to be one of the most toxic phrases against Introspection, a way to bury their feelings instead of growing to understand them, and often when I would explain why caring is harder to do that'd be like a lockpick for a bunch of buried shit they felt like they couldn't talk about with their friends. Groupthink keeps the notion alive, even with phrases like "I was just kidding" when it gets too personal to essentially say "We shouldn't care". 

What makes it so hard for people to care about stuff these days, or at least what makes it so difficult for them to admit to themselves? Why is caring seen as weakness?

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Just depends on what you’re supposed to be caring about.

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Chapo said: 

Just depends on what you’re supposed to be caring about.

 No it doesn't you fucking idiot. 

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Xadem said: 
Chapo said: 

Just depends on what you’re supposed to be caring about.

 No it doesn't you fucking idiot. 

 Yea it does you literal retard. There is a huge difference between caring about just about any 2 different things or people.

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Chapo said: 
Xadem said: 
Chapo said: 

Just depends on what you’re supposed to be caring about.

 No it doesn't you fucking idiot. 

 Yea it does you literal retard. There is a huge difference between caring about just about any 2 different things or people.

 God you are such a dumb faggot. When has caring about something ever depended on the thing you care about? That's such a stupid statement. 

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I blame the "don't give a fuck" mentality. Not giving a fuck is perpetuated as a "power" in many instances and is often seen as the solution to everything. "I have an opinion" I don't give a fuck. "I care about this cause" I don't give a fuck. The art of not giving a fuck has its place but feels overused as a "rule of all things" currently. Just my opinion.

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I've been self-examining this quite a bit.  People want to not care so they can avoid the pain one can feel...  One makes themselves vulnerable, or at least *believes* they are vulnerable.

Oddly enough, taking these nootropics and supplements to alter oxytocin, I was better able to manage the ups and downs of ordinary emotions, stress, etc.  My ADHD was better, or at least not as stressful.  There were other positive changes.  The negative seemed to be that other emotions and attachments were heightened and longer-lasting.  Emotions were able to reach deeper and actually be explored more.  Now, as I've been gradually going off these things, I already feel the slide back into shallower emotion, detachment and more cognitive empathy-style thinking.

What has changed?  What has remained?  I don't know.

As regards caring -- to bring it back on-topic -- I think one can examine neurobiological impacts of the environment the state of our culture and society is undergoing.  There is heightened sensitivity, reactionary societal outrage, the rumblings of potential violence in some places, massive uncertainty and hyper-awareness.  People are pacifying themselves into numbness.  The extreme reactions are being compensated by opposite and equal attempts of extreme reaction.  People in the middle try to find their solace in detached disillusionment, probably.

You should enjoy the emotions you have.  All of them.  If you didn't have any, you'd be dead.  That's no fun at all.

There's a way to care, be vulnerable, and still go on.  Emotions never actually kill you...they may drive you to want to, but the emotions themselves aren't actually dangerous.

 

Frank Herbert said:
"I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."
I think the fear revolves around a sense of control being lost or something.  As though caring means you won't be in control of your emotional life, at the whims of the fate of others, etc.  While there's some truth to that, where is the danger, right?  Feeling bad?  Wanting to help someone that needs it?  Having concern?  Finding out they're incapable of returning those feelings?  Abusing them and taking advantage of them?  You're still in control, really.  People are scared of themselves.
Thrall to the Wire of Self-Excited Circuit.
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It's not that complicated; I assume you're probing, you should give some input as well.

Not caring = above the shit/"you can't affect me with this." I hate to break it to you, but I don't care. You know how much I don't care? Look at you being all smug, thinking I'm invested in something just because I express the opposite of it. But guess what, I already knew you would think that way. And not for one moment or modicum did I change my mind. I seriously don't care, and even though you think I do because I'm typing this...guess what: I don't care.

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