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Turncoat said: 

Her conclusions however can change enough to have her stuck fighting her own former words, often. 

Considering that she sees herself as a goddess in human form, suffering like this so that her spiritual form can learn important lessons, it's difficult to push the weak or strong angle for her when the other stands to immediately contradict it.

Does she? Yet what does she have to show for it? Becoming a porn actress took me by surprise, but she will never do the things she knows count. Not crazy enough. She should think big.

How much does the meaning change from shifting languages? I've heard people complain about how much was lost translating it into English.

The English version feels emotional and unreal to me. The Finnish version is nice and calm. Like it was meant to be.

tpp said: 

Turncoat said: 

Her conclusions however can change enough to have her stuck fighting her own former words, often. 

Considering that she sees herself as a goddess in human form, suffering like this so that her spiritual form can learn important lessons, it's difficult to push the weak or strong angle for her when the other stands to immediately contradict it.

Does she? Yet what does she have to show for it?

Lessons for her Goddess form, ones that could only be learned by being in such a challenging physical form. 

Turquie's battle is a spiritual one, one where everything she once did is demonized in favor of a new path. 

Becoming a porn actress took me by surprise, but she will never do the things she knows count. Not crazy enough. She should think big.

What's bigger than God and Satan though? 

How much does the meaning change from shifting languages? I've heard people complain about how much was lost translating it into English.

The English version feels emotional and unreal to me. The Finnish version is nice and calm. Like it was meant to be.

I more question the changes and losses in meaning, like if Jesus walked on water or merely beside it. 

There is nothing bigger than God, but it's an insult to God for you to become a loser and waste the life you were given. Thinking big is doing the work God gave you. But why are you even asking me, when to you religious people are merely clowns for you to listen to, for your own amusement. We're like zoo animals to you, meant to entertain and intrigue you. You're disrespectful.

Nothing is lost in translation. Everything you are meant to hear, you hear. I don't read the English bible so I can't answer your question.

tpp said: 

There is nothing bigger than God, but it's an insult to God for you to become a loser and waste the life you were given.

It really isn't when you read the entire thing. 

Ever look into Ecclesiastes? 

Thinking big is doing the work God gave you.

In a deterministic sense we're doing precisely what we're meant to do and cannot do any differently. We're given 'choice' as a consolation prize for our inevitable burning. 

But why are you even asking me, when to you religious people are merely clowns for you to listen to, for your own amusement.

Because it's still about people. 

We're like zoo animals to you, meant to entertain and intrigue you. You're disrespectful.

To say we're better than animals is to disrespect nature. 

Nothing is lost in translation.

Tons is actually, and many carry quotes as if they were Christian when they never really were, such as "God Helps Those Who Help Themselves" actually originating from Ancient Greek Drama. 

Everything you are meant to hear, you hear. I don't read the English bible so I can't answer your question.

Any Bible that isn't in it's mother tongue is more prone to interpretation, and if you're going with the determinism angle then you're also saying that the majority were meant to hear the things that end up causally responsible for their trip to Hell's Furnace: 

Revelations 14:1-4: Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads.

144,000 isn't that many people, while the rest are meant to be God's army on Earth during The Rapture with the aim of building the second Eden. 

Turncoat said: 

tpp said: 

There is nothing bigger than God, but it's an insult to God for you to become a loser and waste the life you were given.

It really isn't when you read the entire thing. 

Ever look into Ecclesiastes? 

Surely you've both read Job?  The real difference is in the choice.  Christianity is almost entirely about ministry, mercy and forgiveness.  Exactly who did Jesus do the most preaching to?  Surely you're also familiar with the parable of the Prodigal Son and many others on this theme of compassion and sacrifice?

DELETE DUPLICATE.

If you're going to use the Bible to mock religious people, at least don't strawman it.

Insufferable.

You're the type of person who reads sentences out of context. It's what you do with the Bible. You see the tree, but not the forest. I don't believe in determinism, by the way. These smart-ass arguments.... I've heard them all before. You don't even try to understand, because you're predisposed to seeing no value in trying to genuinely understand... It's sad, and it is the prime reason I don't think you're a valuable person to talk to. The course of this discussion has already been predetermined by your.... thick head.

Buttered Toast said: 

Turncoat said: 

tpp said: 

There is nothing bigger than God, but it's an insult to God for you to become a loser and waste the life you were given.

It really isn't when you read the entire thing. 

Ever look into Ecclesiastes? 

Surely you've both read Job? 

You mean the story where a bunch of regular people ended up suffering over a bet made between God and Satan? 

Satan knows God sees all of time and space at once, so ask yourself; Why would he make a bet with someone who could already see the outcome? 

The answer is simple: Through Job's ascension many many more were destined to go to Hell unjustly. Sure he was given a longer lifespan, a new wife, and new children, but he'd have to have a heart made of stone to not mourn the passing of his first family and his former friends. 

It raises similar questions with events like The Apple: Surely God in his Grand Wisdom knew humans would eat the apple and thereby be banished from the garden, and without that fruit we had even less choices than following it. He knew full well the outcomes and still chose to have things proceed as they have, meaning we must either accept that God isn't all powerful or that God wants things to be this way. 

The real difference is in the choice. 

The illusion of choice, don't mistake them for the same thing. If you look at the texts further you'll also see that while He supposedly gives us the option of choice he also doesn't appreciate the majority of our choices. 

God's been expressed to be a Deterministic creature, capable of seeing all of time and space at once. There isn't a choice we could make He wouldn't see in advance, therefor our choices are only as strong as the illusion of it, as far as the ignorance of God can allow. 

Christianity is almost entirely about ministry, mercy and forgiveness. 

That highly depends on which sect. 

Try asking a Catholic about this. 

Surely you're also familiar with the parable of the Prodigal Son and many others on this theme of compassion and sacrifice?

You mean when God used Jesus as Puppet Theater to impress the masses? 

The entire point of him being birthed as Jesus was so that he could relate to the Human experience more... but this contradicts both him being all knowing and his use of cheat codes with Jesus had him still not learn the lessons properly. At best we could argue that he needed Jesus in the timeline somewhere to understand humanity across all points in time, even before Jesus' birth, but that still contradicts a lot of things published about the Christian God. 

Even God and Jesus' talks with each other is largely a timelord talking to his retarded self in the timeline, and everything that happened was largely rhetorical. They couldn't even let him stay dead. 

I'm also quite familiar with how the passages were changed to have shit like Rome taken in a more sympathetic light. 

tpp said: 

If you're going to use the Bible to mock religious people, at least don't strawman it.

Insufferable.

You're the type of person who reads sentences out of context. It's what you do with the Bible. You see the tree, but not the forest. I don't believe in determinism, by the way. These smart-ass arguments.... I've heard them all before. You don't even try to understand, because you're predisposed to seeing no value in trying to genuinely understand... It's sad, and it is the prime reason I don't think you're a valuable person to talk to. The course of this discussion has already been predetermined by your.... thick head.

 I can't tell if this is more gaslighting or projection.  You're ad-hominning right into straw-manning.

tpp said: 

If you're going to use the Bible to mock religious people, at least don't strawman it.

The ones who follow The Bible tend to do more strawmanning than it's critics. 

You're the type of person who reads sentences out of context.

Or maybe you're the sort who can't split bias from the works? 

It was supposedly written by God through the hands of men, figure either the perspective of God or the perspective of those masquerading as His word when reading the texts and you'll see that Satan is a surprisingly sympathetic figure. 

He is a historian and artist of every finding in Humanity that goes against the natural order. He's even the founder of Science. 

I don't believe in determinism, by the way.

Then you don't believe in Christianity. 🤷