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1 votes RE: Xadem: deceitful alcohol
Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 
Lena said: 

So then shes not willing to share the family cult because it might dox her? Shifty is still friends with her family, do they condone what hes done to their daughter?

The father believes that a husband is unable to rape his wife, because the wife is her husband's property. Same goes for general abuse, and extends to beating you children for example. The narrative is usually one where if a woman is raped or beaten, it's her fault for evoking temptation/anger. It's very very fucked up, but not at all unique. 

Yeah... I've seen a lot of this crap. 

Still, they're liable to object to the drugs and prostitution right?

I believe so, but keep in mind the father drinks a lot of alcohol and they use alcohol during their weird prayers at the cult too. They've gotten drunk and frenzied before. I don't think there's much you could say to the dad where he wouldn't blame the woman. Remember how Shifty blamed Scar for his heroin addiction in his story? Take that and apply it to everything. Everything has always been her fault throughout her entire childhood. 

So is Shifty more trying to hearken on that than his own beliefs? 

 I think so, yes. It's quite an efficient manipulation tool. I have been the one to make Scarlett think for herself. 

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1 votes RE: Xadem: deceitful alcohol
Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 

The whole "Heard her nightmare" portion of the stalker narrative thing is also... kinda... teenage psycho. 

Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 

Fine, you guys can be sceptical, I agree that this idiot is a massive joke, so I get that it's hard to believe. But you can take it from me, that he's real and that his words have correlated with real-life events. I guess from an outside perspective it's less clear, but I assure you he's really like this. And Scar couldn't possibly set this shit up, lol. No offense to her ofc

Have you heard his voice yet? 

Skepticism or not I'm curious about it. 

He did send me some vids, some pics too but I called him on Discord repeatedly back in April and he wouldn't pick up. 

I don't know how to prove that he's real. It is very funny that he's this much of a joke, that people are sceptical about him. Unless Scarlett is this mastermind who can orchestrate something of this scale + manipulate me for a year about it, then I don't know what to tell you but then anything is possible really. 

It adds to my skepticism when I've literally seen it happen here. Posted Image

Wait, what kinds of vids? 

Just one where he was high on heroin

Wait wait what? This one sounds like a precious gem. Did he talk through it at all or have any scenes with his face talking to the camera? It'd at least connect the video to the pictures. 

Yeah it was him high as shit on heroin and her trying to feed him, he looked retarded but his face is clearly visible. Lemme see if I can find it in old messages with her. 

Assuming you've seen her face beyond photos, like webcam or something across your year of knowing each other, this would connect her face to his existence. 

Doesn't necessarily prove the puppet is him, but it would prove that the guy is real and a part of her past. While this could be an unconvincing parody of him (if not someone else from her life that fit the bill) and while it proves none of her backstory's claim it is something tangible

 You only see his face, actually but you can hear her voice as well as his. What would you need to be convinced? 

Links or connections between the claims and the reality, hence why hearing that you saw her from webcam and saw her in a video with him would form a strong link towards at least one of the listed details (her knowing a dude on heroin). I wouldn't even need to see it myself for me to believe that you saw the connection, as you aren't the one really being questioned but rather are another observer just like we are (albeit with more investment and contextual knowledge). 

Again, I'm a chronic skeptic. It's hard but enlightening for me to see things that aren't the simpler answer. 

Xadem said:
I think so, yes. It's quite an efficient manipulation tool. I have been the one to make Scarlett think for herself.

It would explain why he keeps saying "ask her" and "she knows". 

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0 votes RE: Xadem: deceitful alcohol
Lena said: 
Xadem said: 
Lena said: 
Xadem said: 
Lena said: 

So then shes not willing to share the family cult because it might dox her? Shifty is still friends with her family, do they condone what hes done to their daughter?

The father believes that a husband is unable to rape his wife, because the wife is her husband's property. Same goes for general abuse, and extends to beating you children for example. The narrative is usually one where if a woman is raped or beaten, it's her fault for evoking temptation/anger. It's very very fucked up, but not at all unique. 

 Yeah but pimping her out and sex before marriage as well as the general abuse he put her through, is shifty accepted in her father's home? Are they divorced? And how did he find his way here?

 

 I don't think the dad is completely aware, but like I explained he's very good at twisting scripture to suit himself so I'm sure he'd explain it away. As far as the drugs go, I recall Scar saying that her parents didn't know. The dad sees Shifty as the legitimate husband and is generally not to be trusted. 

Scar found SC last year when she was still living with Shifty, her side of the story is  here, for my princess lena 

 1st, gross. Dont ever refer to me as such. 

2nd. So hes her ex husband, signed all the paperwork literally gave her up but hes still obsessed with her? Hows her dad taking that? 

Sorry your highness

Her dad considers the divorce invalid and ungodly or whatever, so as far as he's concerned it's not canon and she is still his wife before god or some gay shit like that. 

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Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 
Lena said: 

So then shes not willing to share the family cult because it might dox her? Shifty is still friends with her family, do they condone what hes done to their daughter?

The father believes that a husband is unable to rape his wife, because the wife is her husband's property. Same goes for general abuse, and extends to beating you children for example. The narrative is usually one where if a woman is raped or beaten, it's her fault for evoking temptation/anger. It's very very fucked up, but not at all unique. 

Yeah... I've seen a lot of this crap. 

Still, they're liable to object to the drugs and prostitution right?

I believe so, but keep in mind the father drinks a lot of alcohol and they use alcohol during their weird prayers at the cult too. They've gotten drunk and frenzied before. I don't think there's much you could say to the dad where he wouldn't blame the woman. Remember how Shifty blamed Scar for his heroin addiction in his story? Take that and apply it to everything. Everything has always been her fault throughout her entire childhood. 

So is Shifty more trying to hearken on that than his own beliefs? 

 I think so, yes. It's quite an efficient manipulation tool. I have been the one to make Scarlett think for herself. 

What were her interactions with you more like at the beginning? 

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1 votes RE: Xadem: deceitful alcohol
Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 

The whole "Heard her nightmare" portion of the stalker narrative thing is also... kinda... teenage psycho. 

Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 

Fine, you guys can be sceptical, I agree that this idiot is a massive joke, so I get that it's hard to believe. But you can take it from me, that he's real and that his words have correlated with real-life events. I guess from an outside perspective it's less clear, but I assure you he's really like this. And Scar couldn't possibly set this shit up, lol. No offense to her ofc

Have you heard his voice yet? 

Skepticism or not I'm curious about it. 

He did send me some vids, some pics too but I called him on Discord repeatedly back in April and he wouldn't pick up. 

I don't know how to prove that he's real. It is very funny that he's this much of a joke, that people are sceptical about him. Unless Scarlett is this mastermind who can orchestrate something of this scale + manipulate me for a year about it, then I don't know what to tell you but then anything is possible really. 

It adds to my skepticism when I've literally seen it happen here. Posted Image

Wait, what kinds of vids? 

Just one where he was high on heroin

Wait wait what? This one sounds like a precious gem. Did he talk through it at all or have any scenes with his face talking to the camera? It'd at least connect the video to the pictures. 

Yeah it was him high as shit on heroin and her trying to feed him, he looked retarded but his face is clearly visible. Lemme see if I can find it in old messages with her. 

Assuming you've seen her face beyond photos, like webcam or something across your year of knowing each other, this would connect her face to his existence. 

Doesn't necessarily prove the puppet is him, but it would prove that the guy is real and a part of her past. While this could be an unconvincing parody of him (if not someone else from her life that fit the bill) and while it proves none of her backstory's claim it is something tangible

 You only see his face, actually but you can hear her voice as well as his. What would you need to be convinced? 

Links or connections between the claims and the reality, hence why hearing that you saw her from webcam and saw her in a video with him would form a strong link. I wouldn't even need to see it myself for me to believe that you saw the connection, as you aren't the one really being questioned but rather are another observer just like we are (albeit with more investment and contextual knowledge). 

Again, I'm a chronic skeptic. It's hard but enlightening for me to see things that aren't the simpler answer. 

I understand and I know it's nothing personal. I know that Shifty is Damien, having talked to him and Scar simultaneously and having gotten acquainted with him via PM. He has been spot on with Scarlett's light going out the past weeks, he has left some signs of his presence (like sending drugs to her house and stealing her clothes from the washing line outside). I've seen Scarlett millions of times on webcam and talked, etc. I know her well enough and I know a shitload about Shifty's real life identity too, to the point of his place of employment and even what position he has. 

And of course I'd not lie about this, I'm just baffled at how stupid he's been throughout all of this to make such a fool of himself. I genuinely had higher expectations. 

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It doesn't make sense that with his level of obsession. How long were scarlett and shifty separated for

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1 votes RE: Xadem: deceitful alcohol
Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 
Lena said: 

So then shes not willing to share the family cult because it might dox her? Shifty is still friends with her family, do they condone what hes done to their daughter?

The father believes that a husband is unable to rape his wife, because the wife is her husband's property. Same goes for general abuse, and extends to beating you children for example. The narrative is usually one where if a woman is raped or beaten, it's her fault for evoking temptation/anger. It's very very fucked up, but not at all unique. 

Yeah... I've seen a lot of this crap. 

Still, they're liable to object to the drugs and prostitution right?

I believe so, but keep in mind the father drinks a lot of alcohol and they use alcohol during their weird prayers at the cult too. They've gotten drunk and frenzied before. I don't think there's much you could say to the dad where he wouldn't blame the woman. Remember how Shifty blamed Scar for his heroin addiction in his story? Take that and apply it to everything. Everything has always been her fault throughout her entire childhood. 

So is Shifty more trying to hearken on that than his own beliefs? 

 I think so, yes. It's quite an efficient manipulation tool. I have been the one to make Scarlett think for herself. 

What were her interactions with you more like at the beginning? 

At the very beginning? Fuck, man. I'd have to think. I remember her being a lot more clingy (to my great annoyance) and scared-y; she was scared of the dark, for example. She was god fearing and very insecure, not good at handling confrontation whatsoever and had severe social anxiety. She would have this tough persona in the very beginning but once that fell and she opened up her weaknesses were laid bare. She was suicidal and depressed, too. That's what I still remember at least. She was very sweet however and I could see she had a good heart. 

Now that's not to say that all of these core elements have been worked through entirely, but she isn't scared of the dark anymore, she's a lot more assertive and even gained confidence. She's matured immensely in the past year. 

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1 votes RE: Xadem: deceitful alcohol
Lena said: 

It doesn't make sense that with his level of obsession. How long were scarlett and shifty separated for

Yes it's irrational 

Like, a year and a half. Shifty expected her to come back to him so he let her leave, thinking she'd come crawling back. I guess now his patience has run out and he's desperate. Despite his claims to the contrary, this is the first time she has ever left him for so long and he's out of his comfort zone. By a loooong stretch. 

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1 votes RE: Xadem: deceitful alcohol
Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 
Yeah it was him high as shit on heroin and her trying to feed him, he looked retarded but his face is clearly visible. Lemme see if I can find it in old messages with her. 

Assuming you've seen her face beyond photos, like webcam or something across your year of knowing each other, this would connect her face to his existence. 

Doesn't necessarily prove the puppet is him, but it would prove that the guy is real and a part of her past. While this could be an unconvincing parody of him (if not someone else from her life that fit the bill) and while it proves none of her backstory's claim it is something tangible

You only see his face, actually but you can hear her voice as well as his. What would you need to be convinced? 

Links or connections between the claims and the reality, hence why hearing that you saw her from webcam and saw her in a video with him would form a strong link. I wouldn't even need to see it myself for me to believe that you saw the connection, as you aren't the one really being questioned but rather are another observer just like we are (albeit with more investment and contextual knowledge). 

Again, I'm a chronic skeptic. It's hard but enlightening for me to see things that aren't the simpler answer. 

He has been spot on with Scarlett's light going out the past weeks

Skeptical Answer: It doesn't take much for a puppet to announce your own room's situation. 

I could sit here and describe what's going on in my room on an alt account just as easily and then go on about how much "the stalker" knows. I would however struggle to do that vocally for the other gender, so something like leaving creepy messages with clear timestamps (standard for most message machines) would be pretty viable. 

he has left some signs of his presence (like sending drugs to her house and stealing her clothes from the washing line outside).

I can't think of how you'd be able to prove that beyond being with her in person while it's happening. 

I've seen Scarlett millions of times on webcam and talked, etc.

Okay nice that strongly reduces a lot of the risk. 

I was about to throw so much suspicion if it'd been a year and you hadn't even once. Posted Image

I know her well enough and I know a shitload about Shifty's real life identity too, to the point of his place of employment and even what position he has. 

So you could actually look him up if you so desired to verify everything about this dude? 

That alone's very different from an Angee move, as a liar would see that as applying external risk, something that can absolutely shatter a gaslight if they aren't otherwise puppeteering both parties. Also hearing that it's more of a hyper-religious family instead of a cult adds more legitimacy to how wild the story originally sounded as well. 

And of course I'd not lie about this, I'm just baffled at how stupid he's been throughout all of this to make such a fool of himself. I genuinely had higher expectations. 

I have a higher baseline expectation for people, let alone Shifty. 

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0 votes RE: Xadem: deceitful alcohol
Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 
Yeah it was him high as shit on heroin and her trying to feed him, he looked retarded but his face is clearly visible. Lemme see if I can find it in old messages with her. 

Assuming you've seen her face beyond photos, like webcam or something across your year of knowing each other, this would connect her face to his existence. 

Doesn't necessarily prove the puppet is him, but it would prove that the guy is real and a part of her past. While this could be an unconvincing parody of him (if not someone else from her life that fit the bill) and while it proves none of her backstory's claim it is something tangible

You only see his face, actually but you can hear her voice as well as his. What would you need to be convinced? 

Links or connections between the claims and the reality, hence why hearing that you saw her from webcam and saw her in a video with him would form a strong link. I wouldn't even need to see it myself for me to believe that you saw the connection, as you aren't the one really being questioned but rather are another observer just like we are (albeit with more investment and contextual knowledge). 

Again, I'm a chronic skeptic. It's hard but enlightening for me to see things that aren't the simpler answer. 

He has been spot on with Scarlett's light going out the past weeks

Skeptical Answer: It doesn't take much for a puppet to announce your own room's situation. 

I could sit here and describe what's going on in my room on an alt account just as easily and then go on about how much "the stalker" knows. I would however struggle to do that vocally for the other gender, so something like leaving creepy messages with clear timestamps (standard for most message machines) would be pretty viable.

Yes but that's merely a possibility, and really not practical in its context. It's not impossible of course, so ya. Do you see Scarlett putting up a show like this, though? Unless of course she really is the antagonist in this story, but fuck man, if that were true then I might as well join a cult myself. 

he has left some signs of his presence (like sending drugs to her house and stealing her clothes from the washing line outside).

I can't think of how you'd be able to prove that beyond being with her in person while it's happening. 

Fair enough. I do believe her when she says that that happened. 

I've seen Scarlett millions of times on webcam and talked, etc.

Okay nice that strongly reduces a lot of the risk. 

I was about to throw so much suspicion if it'd been a year and you hadn't even once. Posted Image

Lol, nah. We're very well acquainted over various social media. Christ, man. Have some faith in your boy. 

I know her well enough and I know a shitload about Shifty's real life identity too, to the point of his place of employment and even what position he has. 

So you could actually look him up if you so desired to verify everything about this dude? 

That alone's very different from an Angee move, as a liar would see that as applying external risk, something that can absolutely shatter a gaslight if they aren't otherwise puppeteering both parties. Also hearing that it's more of a hyper-religious family instead of a cult adds more legitimacy to how wild the story originally sounded as well. 

I knew his Facebook before this all started. After the pics he sent, I was able to verify. This nigger has since deleted his share of our discord messages, but luckily I'm a mastermind manipulator so I had the foresight to screenshot everything from start to finish :)) 

And of course I'd not lie about this, I'm just baffled at how stupid he's been throughout all of this to make such a fool of himself. I genuinely had higher expectations. 

I have a higher baseline expectation for people, let alone Shifty. 

 Imagine my shock turning to glee after shit like this

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