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Xadem said: 
Lena said: 

So then shes not willing to share the family cult because it might dox her? Shifty is still friends with her family, do they condone what hes done to their daughter?

The father believes that a husband is unable to rape his wife, because the wife is her husband's property. Same goes for general abuse, and extends to beating you children for example. The narrative is usually one where if a woman is raped or beaten, it's her fault for evoking temptation/anger. It's very very fucked up, but not at all unique. 

 Yeah but pimping her out and sex before marriage as well as the general abuse he put her through, is shifty accepted in her father's home? Are they divorced? And how did he find his way here?

 

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 The whole "Heard her nightmare" portion of the stalker narrative thing is also... kinda... teenage psycho. 

Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 

Fine, you guys can be sceptical, I agree that this idiot is a massive joke, so I get that it's hard to believe. But you can take it from me, that he's real and that his words have correlated with real-life events. I guess from an outside perspective it's less clear, but I assure you he's really like this. And Scar couldn't possibly set this shit up, lol. No offense to her ofc

Have you heard his voice yet? 

Skepticism or not I'm curious about it. 

He did send me some vids, some pics too but I called him on Discord repeatedly back in April and he wouldn't pick up. 

I don't know how to prove that he's real. It is very funny that he's this much of a joke, that people are sceptical about him. Unless Scarlett is this mastermind who can orchestrate something of this scale + manipulate me for a year about it, then I don't know what to tell you but then anything is possible really. 

It adds to my skepticism when I've literally seen it happen here. Posted Image

Wait, what kinds of vids? 

Just one where he was high on heroin

Wait wait what? This one sounds like a precious gem. Did he talk through it at all or have any scenes with his face talking to the camera? It'd at least connect the video to the pictures. 

Yeah it was him high as shit on heroin and her trying to feed him, he looked retarded but his face is clearly visible. Lemme see if I can find it in old messages with her. 

Xadem said:
No, they have their own little church and the dad actually leads it. It used to be two families, and there are members outside of the family too. Officially it's a church but it's got all the traits of a cult.

When you say "Family", how large are we talking? 

I've seen some of these "families" have a literal army of children, especially if they celebrate the right to having multiple wives. 

Nah he's just got one wife. Scar has got a sis, two brothers and her parents as immediate family. Idk about the rest of the family's participation in the cult, I believe only her grandma and one of her aunts are the only sensible ones, which led them to be a bit dissociated with the rest of the fam. 

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Lena said: 

Yeah but pimping her out and sex before marriage as well as the general abuse he put her through, is shifty accepted in her father's home?

I've been wondering about the "older brother best friend" too. 

Are they divorced?

Also something I was wondering about. 

And how did he find his way here?

I was the one who first told her she might be a sociopath.
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last edit on 7/9/2019 5:04:29 PM
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Lena said: 
Xadem said: 
Lena said: 

So then shes not willing to share the family cult because it might dox her? Shifty is still friends with her family, do they condone what hes done to their daughter?

The father believes that a husband is unable to rape his wife, because the wife is her husband's property. Same goes for general abuse, and extends to beating you children for example. The narrative is usually one where if a woman is raped or beaten, it's her fault for evoking temptation/anger. It's very very fucked up, but not at all unique. 

 Yeah but pimping her out and sex before marriage as well as the general abuse he put her through, is shifty accepted in her father's home? Are they divorced? And how did he find his way here?

 

 I don't think the dad is completely aware, but like I explained he's very good at twisting scripture to suit himself so I'm sure he'd explain it away. As far as the drugs go, I recall Scar saying that her parents didn't know. The dad sees Shifty as the legitimate husband and is generally not to be trusted. 

Scar found SC last year when she was still living with Shifty, her side of the story is  here, for my princess lena 

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Xadem said: 

The whole "Heard her nightmare" portion of the stalker narrative thing is also... kinda... teenage psycho. 

Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 

Fine, you guys can be sceptical, I agree that this idiot is a massive joke, so I get that it's hard to believe. But you can take it from me, that he's real and that his words have correlated with real-life events. I guess from an outside perspective it's less clear, but I assure you he's really like this. And Scar couldn't possibly set this shit up, lol. No offense to her ofc

Have you heard his voice yet? 

Skepticism or not I'm curious about it. 

He did send me some vids, some pics too but I called him on Discord repeatedly back in April and he wouldn't pick up. 

I don't know how to prove that he's real. It is very funny that he's this much of a joke, that people are sceptical about him. Unless Scarlett is this mastermind who can orchestrate something of this scale + manipulate me for a year about it, then I don't know what to tell you but then anything is possible really. 

It adds to my skepticism when I've literally seen it happen here. Posted Image

Wait, what kinds of vids? 

Just one where he was high on heroin

Wait wait what? This one sounds like a precious gem. Did he talk through it at all or have any scenes with his face talking to the camera? It'd at least connect the video to the pictures. 

Yeah it was him high as shit on heroin and her trying to feed him, he looked retarded but his face is clearly visible. Lemme see if I can find it in old messages with her. 

Assuming you've seen her face beyond photos, like webcam or something across your year of knowing each other, this would connect her face to his existence. 

Doesn't necessarily prove the puppet is him, but it would prove that the guy is real and a part of her past. While this could be an unconvincing parody of him (if not someone else from her life that fit the bill) and while it proves none of her backstory's claim it is something tangible

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last edit on 7/9/2019 5:08:47 PM
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0 votes RE: Xadem: deceitful alcohol
Xadem said: 
Lena said: 

So then shes not willing to share the family cult because it might dox her? Shifty is still friends with her family, do they condone what hes done to their daughter?

The father believes that a husband is unable to rape his wife, because the wife is her husband's property. Same goes for general abuse, and extends to beating you children for example. The narrative is usually one where if a woman is raped or beaten, it's her fault for evoking temptation/anger. It's very very fucked up, but not at all unique. 

Yeah... I've seen a lot of this crap. 

Still, they're liable to object to the drugs and prostitution right?

I believe so, but keep in mind the father drinks a lot of alcohol and they use alcohol during their weird prayers at the cult too. They've gotten drunk and frenzied before. I don't think there's much you could say to the dad where he wouldn't blame the woman. Remember how Shifty blamed Scar for his heroin addiction in his story? Take that and apply it to everything. Everything has always been her fault throughout her entire childhood. 

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Xadem said: 

The whole "Heard her nightmare" portion of the stalker narrative thing is also... kinda... teenage psycho. 

Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 

Fine, you guys can be sceptical, I agree that this idiot is a massive joke, so I get that it's hard to believe. But you can take it from me, that he's real and that his words have correlated with real-life events. I guess from an outside perspective it's less clear, but I assure you he's really like this. And Scar couldn't possibly set this shit up, lol. No offense to her ofc

Have you heard his voice yet? 

Skepticism or not I'm curious about it. 

He did send me some vids, some pics too but I called him on Discord repeatedly back in April and he wouldn't pick up. 

I don't know how to prove that he's real. It is very funny that he's this much of a joke, that people are sceptical about him. Unless Scarlett is this mastermind who can orchestrate something of this scale + manipulate me for a year about it, then I don't know what to tell you but then anything is possible really. 

It adds to my skepticism when I've literally seen it happen here. Posted Image

Wait, what kinds of vids? 

Just one where he was high on heroin

Wait wait what? This one sounds like a precious gem. Did he talk through it at all or have any scenes with his face talking to the camera? It'd at least connect the video to the pictures. 

Yeah it was him high as shit on heroin and her trying to feed him, he looked retarded but his face is clearly visible. Lemme see if I can find it in old messages with her. 

Assuming you've seen her face beyond photos, like webcam or something across your year of knowing each other, this would connect her face to his existence. 

Doesn't necessarily prove the puppet is him, but it would prove that the guy is real and a part of her past. While this could be an unconvincing parody of him (if not someone else from her life that fit the bill) and while it proves none of her backstory's claim it is something tangible

 You only see his face, actually but you can hear her voice as well as his. What would you need to be convinced? 

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0 votes RE: Xadem: deceitful alcohol
Xadem said: 
Xadem said: 
Lena said: 

So then shes not willing to share the family cult because it might dox her? Shifty is still friends with her family, do they condone what hes done to their daughter?

The father believes that a husband is unable to rape his wife, because the wife is her husband's property. Same goes for general abuse, and extends to beating you children for example. The narrative is usually one where if a woman is raped or beaten, it's her fault for evoking temptation/anger. It's very very fucked up, but not at all unique. 

Yeah... I've seen a lot of this crap. 

Still, they're liable to object to the drugs and prostitution right?

I believe so, but keep in mind the father drinks a lot of alcohol and they use alcohol during their weird prayers at the cult too. They've gotten drunk and frenzied before. I don't think there's much you could say to the dad where he wouldn't blame the woman. Remember how Shifty blamed Scar for his heroin addiction in his story? Take that and apply it to everything. Everything has always been her fault throughout her entire childhood. 

So is Shifty more trying to hearken on that than his own beliefs? 

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Xadem said: 
Lena said: 
Xadem said: 
Lena said: 

So then shes not willing to share the family cult because it might dox her? Shifty is still friends with her family, do they condone what hes done to their daughter?

The father believes that a husband is unable to rape his wife, because the wife is her husband's property. Same goes for general abuse, and extends to beating you children for example. The narrative is usually one where if a woman is raped or beaten, it's her fault for evoking temptation/anger. It's very very fucked up, but not at all unique. 

 Yeah but pimping her out and sex before marriage as well as the general abuse he put her through, is shifty accepted in her father's home? Are they divorced? And how did he find his way here?

 

 I don't think the dad is completely aware, but like I explained he's very good at twisting scripture to suit himself so I'm sure he'd explain it away. As far as the drugs go, I recall Scar saying that her parents didn't know. The dad sees Shifty as the legitimate husband and is generally not to be trusted. 

Scar found SC last year when she was still living with Shifty, her side of the story is  here, for my princess lena 

 1st, gross. Dont ever refer to me as such. 

2nd. So hes her ex husband, signed all the paperwork literally gave her up but hes still obsessed with her? Hows her dad taking that? 

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0 votes RE: Xadem: deceitful alcohol
Xadem said: 
Lena said: 
Xadem said: 
Lena said: 

So then shes not willing to share the family cult because it might dox her? Shifty is still friends with her family, do they condone what hes done to their daughter?

The father believes that a husband is unable to rape his wife, because the wife is her husband's property. Same goes for general abuse, and extends to beating you children for example. The narrative is usually one where if a woman is raped or beaten, it's her fault for evoking temptation/anger. It's very very fucked up, but not at all unique. 

 Yeah but pimping her out and sex before marriage as well as the general abuse he put her through, is shifty accepted in her father's home? Are they divorced? And how did he find his way here?

 

 I don't think the dad is completely aware, but like I explained he's very good at twisting scripture to suit himself so I'm sure he'd explain it away. As far as the drugs go, I recall Scar saying that her parents didn't know. The dad sees Shifty as the legitimate husband and is generally not to be trusted. 

Scar found SC last year when she was still living with Shifty, her side of the story is  here, for my princess lena 

 They sound like religious fanatics and the dad is abusive, but it doesn't sound like a cult. Growing up in hillbilly land I've seen hundreds of families like this; even whole communities. But they're no more 'cults' than Mormons or devout Baptists. Also, isolation from family and friends is one of the first and most important steps in indoctrinating someone into a cult. Doesn't seem like that was happening either. Sounds like Scarlet just had a shit childhood and ran to this guy to escape. I could be wrong.

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