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0 votes RE: Are men supposed to be ugly?

No, but they’re allowed to be because they have other things to offer, like the ability to hunt. Yes, now they do have to be attractive because we don’t hunt anymore. That was traded with money. Now cash, looks, and brains are what guys are for. Girls have retained their value :) But... if we get brains, we lose value because the guy feels the loss to his value when we are around. It’s frustrating because we have to be poor and dumb, or smart and lonely. But dumb girls get rich dudes, so being dumb is smart for girls, but society is annoying and tells us differently because people are haters.

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1 votes RE: Are men supposed to be ugly?

No, but they’re allowed to be because they have other things to offer, like the ability to hunt. Yes, now they do have to be attractive because we don’t hunt anymore. That was traded with money. Now cash, looks, and brains are what guys are for. Girls have retained their value :) But... if we get brains, we lose value because the guy feels the loss to his value when we are around. It’s frustrating because we have to be poor and dumb, or smart and lonely. But dumb girls get rich dudes, so being dumb is smart for girls, but society is annoying and tells us differently because people are haters.

 Sounds like the only guys you've been around are mysogenistic cavemonkeys. I can hunt, make money and think for myself and guys are into that in my experience. Most men don't want to support a leech or have to be a parent to their partner.

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0 votes RE: Are men supposed to be ugly?

No. Just you. 

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0 votes RE: Are men supposed to be ugly?

No, but they’re allowed to be because they have other things to offer, like the ability to hunt. Yes, now they do have to be attractive because we don’t hunt anymore. That was traded with money. Now cash, looks, and brains are what guys are for. Girls have retained their value :) But... if we get brains, we lose value because the guy feels the loss to his value when we are around. It’s frustrating because we have to be poor and dumb, or smart and lonely. But dumb girls get rich dudes, so being dumb is smart for girls, but society is annoying and tells us differently because people are haters.

I feel like this is a far cry from what women want, in my general experience. And I'm being general, about my own general experience and other things I've observed over time. So this is a "my own 2 cents" sort of take coming.

So girls might go to a strip club and enjoy it. They may think it's fun, and see a nice rack and think "oh, these are nice boobs." Totally different effect on men; they feel raw sexual energy because that's what their brains are biologically attuned to.

Now cash (ability to provide/success) can mean a lot to women. And everyone is wired to care about appearance. But I think that is far from what attraction for women can be reduced to. It seems more to me that subconsciously, women are seeking structure. Someone to make decisions and take control in the aspects of life they are nervous or otherwise reluctant to face. This is why women are focused on things like, "how does he handle other men," "how much will he stand his ground with me?" It's genetic programming to see a fit mate from their perspective, just like seeing big tits and a nice ass is from the male perspective.

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0 votes RE: Are men supposed to be ugly?

No, but they’re allowed to be because they have other things to offer, like the ability to hunt.

This has visually aesthetic clues in the form of stuff like muscle and stoicism though, couldn't this be seen as a man not being ugly? 

Now cash, looks, and brains are what guys are for.

'Brains' directly go against what Testosterone does for us for the sake of confidence boosting. 

Estrogen meanwhile is about observing your environment, which can account for the increases in sensitivity by contrast. 

Girls have retained their value :)

How would you describe a woman's value, as one of them? 

But... if we get brains, we lose value because the guy feels the loss to his value when we are around.

Brains are what house cleverness and social understanding, two more typical strengths of the female persuasion. A women without brains at most achieves Darwinian success. 

It’s frustrating because we have to be poor and dumb, or smart and lonely.

No, you just have to be likable, but I guess I can see why you're not factoring that in. 

It's more about synergy. 

But dumb girls get rich dudes, so being dumb is smart for girls, but society is annoying and tells us differently because people are haters.

Bombshells get rich dudes, and the Paris Hilton/Anna Nicole Smith perspective on femininity is so 00's. 

Nowadays it's about getting pop culture references as a part of laughing at the other person's jokes, like how they tried to demonstrate Veronica in Riverdale. 

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0 votes RE: Are men supposed to be ugly?

No, but they’re allowed to be because they have other things to offer, like the ability to hunt. Yes, now they do have to be attractive because we don’t hunt anymore. That was traded with money. Now cash, looks, and brains are what guys are for. Girls have retained their value :) But... if we get brains, we lose value because the guy feels the loss to his value when we are around. It’s frustrating because we have to be poor and dumb, or smart and lonely. But dumb girls get rich dudes, so being dumb is smart for girls, but society is annoying and tells us differently because people are haters.

I feel like this is a far cry from what women want, in my general experience. And I'm being general, about my own general experience and other things I've observed over time. So this is a "my own 2 cents" sort of take coming.

Damn dude, these miles of disclaimers just to make sure you don't offend someone look exhausting

So girls might go to a strip club and enjoy it. They may think it's fun, and see a nice rack and think "oh, these are nice boobs." Totally different effect on men; they feel raw sexual energy because that's what their brains are biologically attuned to.

Larger breasts carry the promise of feeding young and wide hips promise less complications with birthing, it's just us sublimating natural urges into a hyper-aesthetic form from it no longer serving it's initial purpose. We've effectively turned survival needs into something more gregarious, which still allows for it's transmission from one generation to the next. 

Pair this with the passive societal conditioning within our media, as we can see across other cultures when we use it as a sociological model as they begin to see more American programming, and you see what's referred to in film circles as "The Male Gaze"; A typically male PoV for the camera-work. We can see this not only spreading into other cultures as they watch more US media, but even through the displays of both genders. 

If we're to use as a comparative model for our behaviors through other mammals, such as Koalas and the Bonobo, lesbian behavior's largely demonstrated as a bait strategy to lure in males. When we compare it to your average American female college student, you begin to see more lesbian behavior surface out of otherwise straight women over how it's quote unquote 'not the same thing', doubling as a form of practice and the aforementioned bait. This makes life hell for female lesbians, by contrast to male homosexuals who are more adjusted to how much males don't want other males inside their personal space. 

In the end, you see both genders find women sexy over how hypersexualized the culture is in tandem with it's utility. Go to other parts of the world and their women don't even need to be seen, and even further you can find cultures who equate being overweight with wealth. A lot of what we're seeing is just people responding to both natured and nurtured stimulus, but as we're starting to see more and more of as kids who watched porn grow up that that spectrum's much more varied once the Free Marketplace of Ideas is no longer hit by the Conservative censor (by contrast to the Liberal one). 

Now cash (ability to provide/success) can mean a lot to women.

Cash has become the representative of power, which is this world's streamlined form of security. I'd argue that it matters a lot to both genders, but that cultural matters of pride hold men back moreso than anything going on in relation to their gender. 

And everyone is wired to care about appearance.

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It seems more to me that subconsciously, women are seeking structure.

I'd argue that both genders are, but that the variances between T vs E balances makes for the difference of whether you attack or defend, whether you go forward or brace for impact. 

This is why women are focused on things like, "how does he handle other men," "how much will he stand his ground with me?" It's genetic programming to see a fit mate from their perspective, just like seeing big tits and a nice ass is from the male perspective.

I figured that was them trying to control the relationship without offending the other party, just how men try to assert dominance as their own means of seeking control. 

It's more about power, and power's unisex these days. 

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0 votes RE: Are men supposed to be ugly?

Someone to make decisions and take control in the aspects of life they are nervous or otherwise reluctant to face.

Could you go into more detail on this one, as I swear I see the same things out of men. 

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0 votes RE: Are men supposed to be ugly?
Luna said: 

Considering that most men are perceived by women to be ugly yet marry them anyways. Based on height, muscle strength, dominance or general alpha maleness. 

Most men can go to 80% of women and say there hot. Whilst most women can only say 15% of men are hot. There seems to be a un-natural imbalance or a natural balance? If we think about it. Male behaviour is generally ugly.

If everyone started to act like there actual gender with no femininity or masculinity mixed in. We could expect the ultra feminine women to be attractive and pretty both in behaviour and looks. Whilst the ultra masculine man being ugly and scary looking both in behaviour and looks.

Women are attracted to healthy bodies, and any man can look good if he works out. She doesn't really need to know the man, all he needs is to fill out her checkmarks and he gets a pass to 3rd base. If the man comes across as needy that's off putting for her.

We never pick who we fall for either, it just happens and the other side just settles. That being said women like men for various reasons. 

The relations between men and women aren't as good as it used to be though. On planet Earth there is a new narrative that puts Men at the bottom of the barrel. 

 

Do women find deformed men attractive or am I not getting it?

Discuss.

 You should be punished for asking this question. 

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0 votes RE: Are men supposed to be ugly?
Luna said: 

Considering that most men are perceived by women to be ugly yet marry them anyways. Based on height, muscle strength, dominance or general alpha maleness. 

Most men can go to 80% of women and say there hot. Whilst most women can only say 15% of men are hot. There seems to be a un-natural imbalance or a natural balance? If we think about it. Male behaviour is generally ugly.

If everyone started to act like there actual gender with no femininity or masculinity mixed in. We could expect the ultra feminine women to be attractive and pretty both in behaviour and looks. Whilst the ultra masculine man being ugly and scary looking both in behaviour and looks.

Women are attracted to healthy bodies, and any man can look good if he works out. She doesn't really need to know the man, all he needs is to fill out her checkmarks and he gets a pass to 3rd base. If the man comes across as needy that's off putting for her.

We never pick who we fall for either, it just happens and the other side just settles. That being said women like men for various reasons. 

The relations between men and women aren't as good as it used to be though. On planet Earth there is a new narrative that puts Men at the bottom of the barrel. 

 

Do women find deformed men attractive or am I not getting it?

Discuss.

 You should be punished for asking this question. 

 I SHOULD BE PUNISHED FOR ASKING A FUCKING QUESTION U FUCKING MORON FUCK URSELF

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0 votes RE: Are men supposed to be ugly?
Matrix said: 
Luna said: 

Considering that most men are perceived by women to be ugly yet marry them anyways. Based on height, muscle strength, dominance or general alpha maleness. 

Most men can go to 80% of women and say there hot. Whilst most women can only say 15% of men are hot. There seems to be a un-natural imbalance or a natural balance? If we think about it. Male behaviour is generally ugly.

If everyone started to act like there actual gender with no femininity or masculinity mixed in. We could expect the ultra feminine women to be attractive and pretty both in behaviour and looks. Whilst the ultra masculine man being ugly and scary looking both in behaviour and looks.

Women are attracted to healthy bodies, and any man can look good if he works out. She doesn't really need to know the man, all he needs is to fill out her checkmarks and he gets a pass to 3rd base. If the man comes across as needy that's off putting for her.

We never pick who we fall for either, it just happens and the other side just settles. That being said women like men for various reasons. 

The relations between men and women aren't as good as it used to be though. On planet Earth there is a new narrative that puts Men at the bottom of the barrel. 

 

Do women find deformed men attractive or am I not getting it?

Discuss.

 You should be punished for asking this question. 

 I SHOULD BE PUNISHED FOR ASKING A FUCKING QUESTION U FUCKING MORON FUCK URSELF

 "Are women attracted to deformed guys?"

lol no. 

Maybe I should feel sorry for you considering how sensitive you are about it.

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