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Alright, I guess we're talking about this. 

Yes, Lena enjoys drama and sometimes actively participates in the generation of it. She typically does that either when she's angry with someone, or feels like someone is behaving in a fucked-up way. This is generally benign behavior, except if she feels like someone is harming people. In which case she might do something she feels is morally responsible, like reporting you to the police.

I wouldn't worry about Lena knowing your address. She knew mine, and even after I did something that pissed her off, she didn't betray that trust. Now people like TC may disagree because she burned him a bit, but generally if you're not being fucked-up she is fair.

So in other words, you're fine with it because she didn't do it to you? 

In the defense of accuracy, she's done this enough times towards enough people, either as an ultimatum threat or as something she's gone through with to try to divorce herself from it, to have it become associated as a part of her identity. It's used as an excuse to get payback on those who've crossed her, like calling CPS on someone after they call her names. 

Wait wait wait, who did i call cps on after they called me names?


When she cannot carry it on the merits of the current social climate, and when she cannot leave it alone over her own obsessive attachment towards it from a sense of irresolution, she goes the extra mile in hopes of finding closure. This extra mile typically involves checking their social media, followed by mentioning it's public information. 

Ehhhhhhh, sure i guess. It's more about verifying and then realizing they're a full human being. 

She's even warned people to hide their details after she's gone on a deep dive, 'as a favor', but more likely as a means of relieving some sense of guilt over having done the dive in the first place. 

No, in the same way that I told you "hey, ur facebook is public" and you assured me that it wasn't only to find out it sorta was i tried stop something from happening. It probably wasn't my place and should have let it happen as it wouldn't have affected me in the slightest. There are people I've earned over know how fucked up it is to have your information used against you. 

What i did to you was wrong and I deeply regret doing it especially for the reason I did it and then for the emotions i felt about it. I betrayed your trust and exposed and left you vulnerable to others in a way I shouldn't have. I made it so that you had to be more public about things and words fail me tbh, i don't know how else to say I'm sorry, i don't think I'll ever be able to make up for it and i don't know how to make it so it doesn't sound like a placation for the time being or a manipulation.

 

What I'm mostly getting out of this is that she did something that pissed you off that I'm not aware of because I haven't been around a ton.

Are you fine with her choice of attack? It's not like everyone when crossed goes towards doxing and social media for a quip. 

 I don't think I've done that and if I have I'd like to know who?

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0 votes RE: Lena, The Keyboard Karen
Alright, I guess we're talking about this. 

Yes, Lena enjoys drama and sometimes actively participates in the generation of it. She typically does that either when she's angry with someone, or feels like someone is behaving in a fucked-up way. This is generally benign behavior, except if she feels like someone is harming people. In which case she might do something she feels is morally responsible, like reporting you to the police.

I wouldn't worry about Lena knowing your address. She knew mine, and even after I did something that pissed her off, she didn't betray that trust. Now people like TC may disagree because she burned him a bit, but generally if you're not being fucked-up she is fair.

So in other words, you're fine with it because she didn't do it to you? 

In the defense of accuracy, she's done this enough times towards enough people, either as an ultimatum threat or as something she's gone through with to try to divorce herself from it, to have it become associated as a part of her identity. It's used as an excuse to get payback on those who've crossed her, like calling CPS on someone after they call her names. 

Wait wait wait, who did i call cps on after they called me names?

That dude on Discord with the drugged up family. 

When she cannot carry it on the merits of the current social climate, and when she cannot leave it alone over her own obsessive attachment towards it from a sense of irresolution, she goes the extra mile in hopes of finding closure. This extra mile typically involves checking their social media, followed by mentioning it's public information. 

Ehhhhhhh, sure i guess. It's more about verifying and then realizing they're a full human being. 

...before you strike? 😆

She's even warned people to hide their details after she's gone on a deep dive, 'as a favor', but more likely as a means of relieving some sense of guilt over having done the dive in the first place. 

No, in the same way that I told you "hey, ur facebook is public" and you assured me that it wasn't only to find out it sorta was i tried stop something from happening. It probably wasn't my place and should have let it happen as it wouldn't have affected me in the slightest. There are people I've earned over know how fucked up it is to have your information used against you. 

It immediately brings to question how you found yourself checking my facebook to the point of having to warn me. 

I find it less weird in the you-and-me way, like when you'd checked my Steam profile activity to make sure I was still alive and good, but it raises the questions of how this could translate towards other people. 

What i did to you was wrong and I deeply regret doing it especially for the reason I did it and then for the emotions i felt about it. I betrayed your trust and exposed and left you vulnerable to others in a way I shouldn't have. I made it so that you had to be more public about things and words fail me tbh, i don't know how else to say I'm sorry, i don't think I'll ever be able to make up for it and i don't know how to make it so it doesn't sound like a placation for the time being or a manipulation.

I know, and you don't need to apologize to me in particular for that shit now it's literally years old info at this point. When this stuff surfaces about others though it conjures that like... cross-referencing addiction I have. 

I just wish you could leave more things alone when you get triggered sometimes. It doesn't have to be about me for me to like, empathize, especially when it has the room to call upon my own experiences as a comparative model. 

What I'm mostly getting out of this is that she did something that pissed you off that I'm not aware of because I haven't been around a ton.

Are you fine with her choice of attack? It's not like everyone when crossed goes towards doxing and social media for a quip. 

 I don't think I've done that and if I have I'd like to know who?

I guess the phrase's closer to 'info gathering' than outright 'doxing'. 

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0 votes RE: Lena, The Keyboard Karen

majority of you have no chill (sc people), lena isn't the worst 

last edit on 1/20/2021 4:10:04 PM
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Yeah I agree with TC. I've noticed Lena gets quite upset when everyone else is happy with each other, and happiest when others are at each others' throats.

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1 votes RE: Lena, The Keyboard Karen
Alright, I guess we're talking about this. 

Yes, Lena enjoys drama and sometimes actively participates in the generation of it. She typically does that either when she's angry with someone, or feels like someone is behaving in a fucked-up way. This is generally benign behavior, except if she feels like someone is harming people. In which case she might do something she feels is morally responsible, like reporting you to the police.

I wouldn't worry about Lena knowing your address. She knew mine, and even after I did something that pissed her off, she didn't betray that trust. Now people like TC may disagree because she burned him a bit, but generally if you're not being fucked-up she is fair.

So in other words, you're fine with it because she didn't do it to you? 

In the defense of accuracy, she's done this enough times towards enough people, either as an ultimatum threat or as something she's gone through with to try to divorce herself from it, to have it become associated as a part of her identity. It's used as an excuse to get payback on those who've crossed her, like calling CPS on someone after they call her names. 

Wait wait wait, who did i call cps on after they called me names?

That dude on Discord with the drugged up family. 

I think I've already explained to you the why I did it and it wasn't because he called me name but rather because his mom was providing him meth, he had beat his significantly younger sister and had beat his gf on video chat, and then claimed he would rape his little sister. He was violent and i fully thought him capable of hurting her. I've said before I did work in family stuff and i was at the time a mandated reporter, this is stuff i did in a regular basis. At some point he was also distributing nudes, that's called distribution of child pornography. 

When she cannot carry it on the merits of the current social climate, and when she cannot leave it alone over her own obsessive attachment towards it from a sense of irresolution, she goes the extra mile in hopes of finding closure. This extra mile typically involves checking their social media, followed by mentioning it's public information. 

Ehhhhhhh, sure i guess. It's more about verifying and then realizing they're a full human being. 

...before you strike? 😆

No, in some cases it's because I talk to a lot of people that do dox for a sense of power, cav is one, adolf is another, and so on. If I know something is going to happen to someone I'll try to be somewhat helpful. 

In cases where i fully think that someone should be doxed i do nothing. Like Rohan. I'm definitely still going to dox him for blackmailing underaged girls and making one suicide after he claimed to send her nudes to her dad.

She's even warned people to hide their details after she's gone on a deep dive, 'as a favor', but more likely as a means of relieving some sense of guilt over having done the dive in the first place. 

No, in the same way that I told you "hey, ur facebook is public" and you assured me that it wasn't only to find out it sorta was i tried stop something from happening. It probably wasn't my place and should have let it happen as it wouldn't have affected me in the slightest. There are people I've earned over know how fucked up it is to have your information used against you. 

It immediately brings to question how you found yourself checking my facebook to the point of having to warn me. 

I find it less weird in the you-and-me way, like when you'd checked my Steam profile activity to make sure I was still alive and good, but it raises the questions of how this could translate towards other people. 

Because someone mentioned you and wanted to do something and i felt maybe I should say something.

 

What i did to you was wrong and I deeply regret doing it especially for the reason I did it and then for the emotions i felt about it. I betrayed your trust and exposed and left you vulnerable to others in a way I shouldn't have. I made it so that you had to be more public about things and words fail me tbh, i don't know how else to say I'm sorry, i don't think I'll ever be able to make up for it and i don't know how to make it so it doesn't sound like a placation for the time being or a manipulation.

I know, and you don't need to apologize to me in particular for that shit now it's literally years old info at this point. When this stuff surfaces about others though it conjures that like... cross-referencing addiction I have. 

I just wish you could leave more things alone when you get triggered sometimes. It doesn't have to be about me for me to like, empathize, especially when it has the room to call upon my own experiences as a comparative model. 

If it's about children especially, i don't plan to leave it alone. I don't think I could if I tried, honestly. 

What I'm mostly getting out of this is that she did something that pissed you off that I'm not aware of because I haven't been around a ton.

Are you fine with her choice of attack? It's not like everyone when crossed goes towards doxing and social media for a quip. 

 I don't think I've done that and if I have I'd like to know who?

I guess the phrase's closer to 'info gathering' than outright 'doxing'. 

 Info gathering? 

I mean with blanc she does have her stuff out, it's more about verifying, like i said. This forum has always been about info gathering, there's a nice placid front right now and maybe it'll stay that way. That would be great. I don't think it will. 

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0 votes RE: Lena, The Keyboard Karen

Yeah I agree with TC. I've noticed Lena gets quite upset when everyone else is happy with each other, and happiest when others are at each others' throats.

 Yeah yeah I'm a bad person or something

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 Wait wait wait, who did i call cps on after they called me names?

That dude on Discord with the drugged up family. 

I think I've already explained to you the why I did it and it wasn't because he called me name but rather because his mom was providing him meth, he had beat his significantly younger sister and had beat his gf on video chat, and then claimed he would rape his little sister. He was violent and i fully thought him capable of hurting her. I've said before I did work in family stuff and i was at the time a mandated reporter, this is stuff i did in a regular basis. At some point he was also distributing nudes, that's called distribution of child pornography. 

This stuff is closer to why you handled it as you did, not why you got involved. You aren't actively scouring the net for these sorts of people, and the fuel that pushed you to get involved wasn't initially over the family. 

Ehhhhhhh, sure i guess. It's more about verifying and then realizing they're a full human being. 

...before you strike? 😆

No, in some cases it's because I talk to a lot of people that do dox for a sense of power, cav is one, adolf is another, and so on. If I know something is going to happen to someone I'll try to be somewhat helpful. 

In cases where i fully think that someone should be doxed i do nothing. Like Rohan. I'm definitely still going to dox him for blackmailing underaged girls and making one suicide after he claimed to send her nudes to her dad.

I feel like your opinion over the person precedes the fixation on their 'crimes', which makes it more about the urge to dig and build a dossier on them in the first place. 

In a sense, them being deviants with something about them to report is convenient when it comes to dealing with them, as then it doesn't have to be about feelings anymore. 

She's even warned people to hide their details after she's gone on a deep dive, 'as a favor', but more likely as a means of relieving some sense of guilt over having done the dive in the first place. 

No, in the same way that I told you "hey, ur facebook is public" and you assured me that it wasn't only to find out it sorta was i tried stop something from happening. It probably wasn't my place and should have let it happen as it wouldn't have affected me in the slightest. There are people I've earned over know how fucked up it is to have your information used against you. 

It immediately brings to question how you found yourself checking my facebook to the point of having to warn me. 

I find it less weird in the you-and-me way, like when you'd checked my Steam profile activity to make sure I was still alive and good, but it raises the questions of how this could translate towards other people. 

Because someone mentioned you and wanted to do something and i felt maybe I should say something.

Ahh.

I figured you were just like, browsing the names of people you knew, felt like maybe that might be weird, then followed that with mentioning your doing so as a proactive warning over what 'others' could do. 

I know, and you don't need to apologize to me in particular for that shit now it's literally years old info at this point. When this stuff surfaces about others though it conjures that like... cross-referencing addiction I have. 

I just wish you could leave more things alone when you get triggered sometimes. It doesn't have to be about me for me to like, empathize, especially when it has the room to call upon my own experiences as a comparative model. 

If it's about children especially, i don't plan to leave it alone. I don't think I could if I tried, honestly. 

It's about whatever you can get your hands on to enable acting on the pettier desire. 

Are you fine with her choice of attack? It's not like everyone when crossed goes towards doxing and social media for a quip. 

 I don't think I've done that and if I have I'd like to know who?

I guess the phrase's closer to 'info gathering' than outright 'doxing'. 

 Info gathering? 

'Scouring the 'net for deets'? 

I mean with blanc she does have her stuff ou-

I mean about potentially anyone on this forum who has a paper trail on the internet. 

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last edit on 1/20/2021 4:42:08 PM
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 Wait wait wait, who did i call cps on after they called me names?

That dude on Discord with the drugged up family. 

I think I've already explained to you the why I did it and it wasn't because he called me name but rather because his mom was providing him meth, he had beat his significantly younger sister and had beat his gf on video chat, and then claimed he would rape his little sister. He was violent and i fully thought him capable of hurting her. I've said before I did work in family stuff and i was at the time a mandated reporter, this is stuff i did in a regular basis. At some point he was also distributing nudes, that's called distribution of child pornography. 

This stuff is closer to why you handled it as you did, not why you got involved. You aren't actively scouring the net for these sorts of people, and the fuel that pushed you to get involved wasn't initially over the family. 

I feel like no matter what I say this is the take you'll go with as it fits your idea of my character. Being called names doesn't trigger me the way you think it does. I'll respond back or other time just agree or Ignore it but it doesn't escalate to calling cps. You and I talked about this dude before and you were shocked about the information you didn't know while telling others it was a petty move on my part because he called me names. 

At this point I don't know if it a smear campaign, you truly don't believe me or if you're just forgetful.

Ehhhhhhh, sure i guess. It's more about verifying and then realizing they're a full human being. 

...before you strike? 😆

No, in some cases it's because I talk to a lot of people that do dox for a sense of power, cav is one, adolf is another, and so on. If I know something is going to happen to someone I'll try to be somewhat helpful. 

In cases where i fully think that someone should be doxed i do nothing. Like Rohan. I'm definitely still going to dox him for blackmailing underaged girls and making one suicide after he claimed to send her nudes to her dad.

I feel like your opinion over the person precedes the fixation on their 'crimes', which makes it more about the urge to dig and build a dossier on them in the first place. 

In a sense, them being deviants with something about them to report is convenient when it comes to dealing with them, as then it doesn't have to be about feelings anymore. 

No? I didn't even know who this person was until I stumbled across his yt vids where he's actively blackmailing a 13yo into masturbating with a knife or he'd send her nudes to her family. I found out about the suicide of a different girl afterwards.  He and I have spoken to each other once, and that was because I mentioned his full name on a server, i didn't have an opinion of him before finding out what he done.

She's even warned people to hide their details after she's gone on a deep dive, 'as a favor', but more likely as a means of relieving some sense of guilt over having done the dive in the first place. 

No, in the same way that I told you "hey, ur facebook is public" and you assured me that it wasn't only to find out it sorta was i tried stop something from happening. It probably wasn't my place and should have let it happen as it wouldn't have affected me in the slightest. There are people I've earned over know how fucked up it is to have your information used against you. 

It immediately brings to question how you found yourself checking my facebook to the point of having to warn me. 

I find it less weird in the you-and-me way, like when you'd checked my Steam profile activity to make sure I was still alive and good, but it raises the questions of how this could translate towards other people. 

Because someone mentioned you and wanted to do something and i felt maybe I should say something.

Ahh.

I figured you were just like, browsing the names of people you knew, felt like maybe that might be weird, then followed that with mentioning your doing so as a proactive warning over what 'others' could do. 

I don't spend most of my days browsing people I know. While I enjoy putting together pieces like a puzzle i don't particularly have time over it unless I've suddenly gotten obsessed with someone like i did blanc.

I know, and you don't need to apologize to me in particular for that shit now it's literally years old info at this point. When this stuff surfaces about others though it conjures that like... cross-referencing addiction I have. 

I just wish you could leave more things alone when you get triggered sometimes. It doesn't have to be about me for me to like, empathize, especially when it has the room to call upon my own experiences as a comparative model. 

If it's about children especially, i don't plan to leave it alone. I don't think I could if I tried, honestly. 

It's about whatever you can get your hands on to enable acting on the pettier desire. 

Nah, you have this thing where you don't believe things are uh, morally wrong or right? Is that moral nihilism? But most people would take action when it come to children being hurt or abused in whatever way. I don't think it's petty at all so again I feel like this is just you thinking this fits my character and so far you think i am a petty person with a power complex. 

 

Are you fine with her choice of attack? It's not like everyone when crossed goes towards doxing and social media for a quip. 

 I don't think I've done that and if I have I'd like to know who?

I guess the phrase's closer to 'info gathering' than outright 'doxing'. 

 Info gathering? 

'Scouring the 'net for deets'? 

Is it that my choice of attack? 

I mean with blanc she does have her stuff ou-

I mean about potentially anyone on this forum who has a paper trail on the internet. 

 Oh, just people that claim certain things. Like psychopath Dave, reaper, blanc, shifty and scarlet.

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0 votes RE: Lena, The Keyboard Karen

Actually, ya know what. Yeah, I'm a bit of an asshole and totally a keyboard karen. Idk why I'm bothering to explain or make excuses when the reality it's i am an emotional kneejerker trigger kinda person and i definitely make things way more difficult than they need to be. 

 

I should try to work on that.

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Turncoat said:
Turncoat said:
 Wait wait wait, who did i call cps on after they called me names?

That dude on Discord with the drugged up family. 

I think I've already explained to you the why I did it and it wasn't because he called me name but rather because his mom was providing him meth, he had beat his significantly younger sister and had beat his gf on video chat, and then claimed he would rape his little sister. He was violent and i fully thought him capable of hurting her. I've said before I did work in family stuff and i was at the time a mandated reporter, this is stuff i did in a regular basis. At some point he was also distributing nudes, that's called distribution of child pornography. 

This stuff is closer to why you handled it as you did, not why you got involved. You aren't actively scouring the net for these sorts of people, and the fuel that pushed you to get involved wasn't initially over the family. 

I feel like no matter what I say this is the take you'll go with as it fits your idea of my character. Being called names doesn't trigger me the way you think it does. I'll respond back or other time just agree or Ignore it but it doesn't escalate to calling cps. You and I talked about this dude before and you were shocked about the information you didn't know while telling others it was a petty move on my part because he called me names. 

Where in the timeline did you see how shit his family was? 

At this point I don't know if it a smear campaign, you truly don't believe me or if you're just forgetful.

This discussion of it's about your motivation. Sure you can sit there and claim that you only go after 'the bad guys', but why you do is what's being scrutinized. 

I'm otherwise just trying to discuss it, like I have with others over their things that grind my gears. 

 I feel like your opinion over the person precedes the fixation on their 'crimes', which makes it more about the urge to dig and build a dossier on them in the first place. 

In a sense, them being deviants with something about them to report is convenient when it comes to dealing with them, as then it doesn't have to be about feelings anymore. 

No? I didn't even know who this person was until I stumbled across his yt vids where he's actively blackmailing a 13yo into masturbating with a knife or he'd send her nudes to her family. I found out about the suicide of a different girl afterwards.  He and I have spoken to each other once, and that was because I mentioned his full name on a server, i didn't have an opinion of him before finding out what he done.

I thought he was already active and calling you a bitch and stuff before you began outing things and calling on government services to handle it for you, not that you were just browsing random youtube channels and then went out of your way to join a server he's in to enact some form of justice on an otherwise complete stranger. 

 Because someone mentioned you and wanted to do something and i felt maybe I should say something.

Ahh.

I figured you were just like, browsing the names of people you knew, felt like maybe that might be weird, then followed that with mentioning your doing so as a proactive warning over what 'others' could do. 

I don't spend most of my days browsing people I know. While I enjoy putting together pieces like a puzzle i don't particularly have time over it unless I've suddenly gotten obsessed with someone like i did blanc.

So you only do it if they're interesting? 

I know, and you don't need to apologize to me in particular for that shit now it's literally years old info at this point. When this stuff surfaces about others though it conjures that like... cross-referencing addiction I have. 

I just wish you could leave more things alone when you get triggered sometimes. It doesn't have to be about me for me to like, empathize, especially when it has the room to call upon my own experiences as a comparative model. 

If it's about children especially, i don't plan to leave it alone. I don't think I could if I tried, honestly. 

It's about whatever you can get your hands on to enable acting on the pettier desire. 

Nah, you have this thing where you don't believe things are uh, morally wrong or right? Is that moral nihilism? But most people would take action when it come to children being hurt or abused in whatever way. 

I'd argue that I do have a moral compass, but I don't (typically) use it as an excuse to act out. 

I don't think it's petty at all so again I feel like this is just you thinking this fits my character and so far you think i am a petty person with a power complex. 

Only when crossed.

To your credit you do otherwise try to keep it under control, but there's areas where it's been able to flourish fairly unimpeded. It's more about finding justifications to feed a destructive, retribution appetite when situations have otherwise made you hungry for it, as without that you otherwise have to just sit on what was said, sit on what life's thrown at you, without a direct sense of closure over it. 

You're a quiet bottler, and convenient targets have a way of honing into your sights during those times. It's an outlet that also feels powerful when you otherwise feel small and meek, appealing to larger bodies of authority to do the work you feel unable to accomplish yourself. Seriously, just hit a heavy bag or something, you don't need to be compiling and compacting all this bile until it explodes. 

Are you fine with her choice of attack? It's not like everyone when crossed goes towards doxing and social media for a quip. 

 I don't think I've done that and if I have I'd like to know who?

I guess the phrase's closer to 'info gathering' than outright 'doxing'. 

 Info gathering? 

'Scouring the 'net for deets'? 

Is it that my choice of attack? 

Or defense, it's the go-to strategy. 

I mean with blanc she does have her stuff ou-

I mean about potentially anyone on this forum who has a paper trail on the internet. 

 Oh, just people that claim certain things. Like psychopath Dave, reaper, blanc, shifty and scarlet.

Are Blanc, Delora, and Med on the same tier? 

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