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Dr. Winner said:
He is great with kids and watches mine when I’m passed out or drunk.
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I’m not even sure I’m willing to leave him to go home in three days.
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I don't recall trying to mentor her. I did strongly advise she not go to Turkey though. I told her it would really suck. I never knew it would suck that bad. Her going there never upset me. 

You were straight up giving her advice and tooting your horn, publicly, over how she's "going places" (conceptually not geographically) thanks to you, thanks to her being in your charge "improving her life" at your "guidance".

She had potential. She was in school studying to be a Lawyer which is better than most of you by a landslide. That's out the window though.   

 

As she started sassing you and not listening to you however you dipped out of there, and judging from the way chat was going and how weird you got about CS's breast milk as the most awkward damage control ever after trying to let C4 know she "liked you first", that made it look like it really fell apart from how your dick wasn't invited to the sausage party. 

I've been making breast milk jokes since Ellict was a member almost a decade ago lol. So of course if CS said she needs to pump milk I'll kill it. 

Even in the text you posted CS said something along the lines of saying how I turned her down but she says "maybe" that was before she seen me. Nope.

True story. I'm not attracted to CS. Never was. I find it funny how people think so. Do you find her attractive ?

 



You were so proud, until she failed you, then you bailed out of there with tons of open bitterness towards her, towards Jim for how he could hit that but you never could (while probably shamed by C4 to the point of not making a hullaballoo), and from the looks of it your way of getting over it, much like your other blunders, you achieve by simply pretending towards yourself that it never happened. 

"I don't recall" seems to be trending lately. 

Bitterness ? Bruh. I'm not Aboutbarrel lol. Back then and even now I'd reckon Barrel was the best guy for her. Better than the other 4 guys for sure. It's a fact.

Spite was a fling doesn't want her,

c4 was a fling doesn't want her,

Jim fucked her up

Trypt is a jobless drunkard

Barrel.... Of the list "wanted her" and has his shit together, has money whatever. 

Plain and simple. I told her she'd regret going to Turkey cause Jim is pretty dangerous. Now what do we see ? He beat her, held a knife to her throat, robbed her, drove her into debt, knocked her up and she "escaped" back home in shame. You don't exactly see me white knighting.


 

 Woah woah woah

CS pushed and instigated for these fights because she likes being the victim, she has said many times she enjoys rape like situations and it's essentially her kink, idk about the knife bit but i do know she stabbed and went at him too. As far as driving her into debt- she was using school loans to travel and admitted as much herself. 

 Bro, rape and the fantasy of it are different. I like rape if it’s fake because I like the dude. Jim got fat, so I wasn’t attracted to him anymore and he was too needy. I told him no and that I was serious and fought him to make him get away and he literally to have sex with him when I wasn’t into it and was crying. Chill. I know what rape is and that was it. I never stabbed him, I did threaten him with a knife because he kept hitting me, but I only said I would cut him and didn’t and would never actually. I just wanted him to be afraid of me so he wouldn’t keep hitting me and kicking me in the face. As for the debt issue, 

 Just like you didn't punch C4 in the face? 

I thought you guys got the knifes out for fun? I thought you've said repeatedly and many time on this forum you liked when your partner put you in your place, because they were teaching you something?

You've even said that you would have stayed with him but you only left because of the baby, so the beatdowns didn't seem to bother you too much and you're a violent person so I definitely believe you stabbed the dude, not saying jim isn't, but you seem to want to bring that out in other, c4 being a good example.

 

he used my credit cards to get cash and buy bitcoins. I got the cash back, but he didn’t give me the thousand of dollars in Bitcoins he took. He did ruin me financially, but it’s my fault. I didn’t tell the card companies it was not me who kept that money. I left it as a punishment for myself and because I didn’t want to relive that experience over the phone just to save money. I wanted to forget about it.

 -he took money out of my cards to get bitcoins

-i got the cash back

-he ruined me financially

More like-

-i took out loans for school, used them to travel instead and give out money to others.

-didnt tell the the credit card company my card was stolen

-i didn't want to relive that experience even tho I constantly remind people i was raped and jim is a bad person for leaving me with a kid 

 

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 Woah woah woah

CS pushed and instigated for these fights because she likes being the victim, she has said many times she enjoys rape like situations and it's essentially her kink, idk about the knife bit but i do know she stabbed and went at him too. As far as driving her into debt- she was using school loans to travel and admitted as much herself. 

 The knife thing was mentioned in these pages. He held the knife to her neck and asked her where her money is.

Yes she did stab his face with a pen. 

Whether or not CS had a delightful experience isn't even debatable. 

And she kept in contact with him afterwards through email, I'm not exactly believing CS here when she seems to black out when she turns violent.

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As a follow up, while rambling about how I'm psychotic and Jim's not to be trusted for the sake of defending her own narrative, she also threw C4 under the bus and claimed that she never hit him, but rather that he hit her and had to say they hit eachother for liability reasons. 

 When c4 stepped in to talk to Delora about not letting cs fuck br, she got upset and asked if she should talk about him and then starting going in about how he was jealous, trying to taunt him while c4 ignored her

She's a cornered animal when people push back

 Being stomped in the balls after coming from the club, having a knife pulled and asked if i wanted to die, and that final nose thing are what I remember, i dont remember much from the relationship. You guys might judge me for not wanting to meet the kid but I am not suicidal like I used to be and I want to protect myself. I have watched too many videos of crazy narcissistic girlfriends killing their man over feeling rejected and replaced with the new partner of the man, and also been reading Sam Vaknin. I am not going out like Jodi Arias' man.

The knife to throat was just me trying to get some money and meet someone else and start fresh. Its extreme of course but its what I thought I had to do in order to be able to get out of that situation because I was broke but I wanted to go to Berlin to my thai trap ex. We were whatsapping for a while and decided to get serious. I was able to meet her months later but yeah money is an obstacle.

 Wow, that’s some BS. I don’t care about you. You’re not worth my time or energy. You called me a whore and wouldn’t stop attacking me after the club, so I got mad and kicked you in the private area. I was the one who told you I’d visit you if I had a bodyguard because I didn’t feel safe. You’re trying to turn it on me, but I don’t care about you at all. I feel sorry for you because I know it’s not your fault that you are how you are, but I’m not where you wish I was with you. You literally said that if you got me pregnant I wouldn’t leave you. You begged me to stay with you and asked me if I loved you so many times that I got annoyed. I left you because you’re abusive and paranoid. You always thought I liked everyone else but you. I let you do it with some dude because I wanted to to put your love somewhere where it would be better received. Even when you proposed you got mad at me for not recording it the first time. It’s okay that it didn’t work out. It’s okay that you are happy now. I just want my baby to be happy, but if you don’t want to meet her, that’s cool. Don’t pretend I’m dangerous like I care enough to do anything to you. You’re the one who gave me a blood clot under my eye from kicking me in the face. I never did anything as crazy. I paid for your therapy and literally everything else. I wanted you to get better so you wouldn’t have to attack me. I liked you but I couldn’t handle being touched by you after you hit me. It’s okay to be honest. Stop trying to play into everyone’s idea that I’m violent. I fought back once because I wasn’t flying to let you beat me with no consequences. I’m not violent. You know I tried to tell you I would never hurt you and where I was drunk I couldn’t handle you hurting me mentally, so I hurt you physically. That was once and it wasn’t a conscious decision. It was reactive. You hit me sober and it was because you thought I was going to hit you. I wasn’t. Just be real. Be honest. You loved me, I wasn’t that into you because you got fat. If you didn’t get fat, I’d probably still be there, unless I had a kid. You like babies in an unhealthy way. That isn’t my thing. My genes are sacred. I protect them with my life. My baby will never be raped by anyone. You would have ruined that. 

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I was wondering where the kid was while she's with tryp tbh

Now that you've posted her talking about fucking Tryp with her kid in the bed, and her redefining the meaning of rape last night to just being "if they're forcefully telling you to stop and fighting back" in conjunction with her history of pedophilia, it really makes me wonder about the future of her kid. 

If this kid is largely ignored and sees "mommy" fucking guys for the attention the kid wants, then the kid's liable to pick up sex as a means of social commerce. 

 Honestly dude, I rather that be her thing than just being raped. I love my baby and I will make sure no one hurts her, including myself. 

So you're cool with raising your child learning to use sex to feel validated in lieu of proper parenting, at an unusually young age? 

 That’s not a thing. She will feel loved so she won’t need to have sex to connect with people. I will explain everything to her so she doesn’t make the same mistakes I do. That’s what being a good parent is about. 

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I was joking.

How dare you think this will convince anybody.

The only one liable to believe this is you, considering how prone you are to recontextualizing the past. 

I don’t need to be serious 24/7 because everyone thinks I’m lying anyway.

You're lying right now. 

I just like them and their relationship and Delora was saying she wanted to see Bo with another chick. I thought it would help her to know that some people are into her dude and if she’s not careful with that, they could steal him from her.

Nah man you were responding to C4's attempt to vag-block you with aggression, and our attempts to redirect it to being about sperm donation had you saying "it wouldn't be worth it if there's no sex". 

This is just more "manipulation", where you'd prefer to bury the truth to live within a more convenient reality. Your only constraint really is the struggle to get other people to adopt your false reality with you so that you can have an easier time believing yourself. 

 Nah, I have that thought in my head of doing it with Bo, but I’m not married to it. I seriously just want to give them a kid because they are a cute couple.  I’m not really insistent on my crazy impulses. If I get to be with Trypt, which is unlikely, I wouldn’t do it with anyone else or give them a kid because I’d want to have Trypt’s kid. It’s not that I’m lying or shouldn’t be taken seriously, it’s just that there are other factors at play and I think a lot so all of that is going through my head at once. I’m never sure of what I’m going to do until i plan it down to the minute. That’s why I say I’m complicated and why I get that people are confused by my seemingly irrational and random choices and words. My brain just has a lot to juggle at once. I was serious in that I would usually like something in return, but not serious because I’m actually really nice and care about marriage and would never have sex with a married man. I would have a baby for them, but I respect marriage too much to indulge in that fantasy. Hopefully that was a coherent rendering of what you’re seeing from the outside and what I am going through that makes it look that way. 

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Dr. Winner said:
I wanted to forget about it.

This is the core of your issues. 

 Possibly. Please explain. I want to get better. I need that info in your brain. 

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I don't recall trying to mentor her. I did strongly advise she not go to Turkey though. I told her it would really suck. I never knew it would suck that bad. Her going there never upset me. 

You were straight up giving her advice and tooting your horn, publicly, over how she's "going places" (conceptually not geographically) thanks to you, thanks to her being in your charge "improving her life" at your "guidance".

She had potential. She was in school studying to be a Lawyer which is better than most of you by a landslide. That's out the window though.   

 

As she started sassing you and not listening to you however you dipped out of there, and judging from the way chat was going and how weird you got about CS's breast milk as the most awkward damage control ever after trying to let C4 know she "liked you first", that made it look like it really fell apart from how your dick wasn't invited to the sausage party. 

I've been making breast milk jokes since Ellict was a member almost a decade ago lol. So of course if CS said she needs to pump milk I'll kill it. 

Even in the text you posted CS said something along the lines of saying how I turned her down but she says "maybe" that was before she seen me. Nope.

True story. I'm not attracted to CS. Never was. I find it funny how people think so. Do you find her attractive ?

 



You were so proud, until she failed you, then you bailed out of there with tons of open bitterness towards her, towards Jim for how he could hit that but you never could (while probably shamed by C4 to the point of not making a hullaballoo), and from the looks of it your way of getting over it, much like your other blunders, you achieve by simply pretending towards yourself that it never happened. 

"I don't recall" seems to be trending lately. 

Bitterness ? Bruh. I'm not Aboutbarrel lol. Back then and even now I'd reckon Barrel was the best guy for her. Better than the other 4 guys for sure. It's a fact.

Spite was a fling doesn't want her,

c4 was a fling doesn't want her,

Jim fucked her up

Trypt is a jobless drunkard

Barrel.... Of the list "wanted her" and has his shit together, has money whatever. 

Plain and simple. I told her she'd regret going to Turkey cause Jim is pretty dangerous. Now what do we see ? He beat her, held a knife to her throat, robbed her, drove her into debt, knocked her up and she "escaped" back home in shame. You don't exactly see me white knighting.


 

 Woah woah woah

CS pushed and instigated for these fights because she likes being the victim, she has said many times she enjoys rape like situations and it's essentially her kink, idk about the knife bit but i do know she stabbed and went at him too. As far as driving her into debt- she was using school loans to travel and admitted as much herself. 

 Bro, rape and the fantasy of it are different. I like rape if it’s fake because I like the dude. Jim got fat, so I wasn’t attracted to him anymore and he was too needy. I told him no and that I was serious and fought him to make him get away and he literally to have sex with him when I wasn’t into it and was crying. Chill. I know what rape is and that was it. I never stabbed him, I did threaten him with a knife because he kept hitting me, but I only said I would cut him and didn’t and would never actually. I just wanted him to be afraid of me so he wouldn’t keep hitting me and kicking me in the face. As for the debt issue, 

 Just like you didn't punch C4 in the face? 

I thought you guys got the knifes out for fun? I thought you've said repeatedly and many time on this forum you liked when your partner put you in your place, because they were teaching you something?

You've even said that you would have stayed with him but you only left because of the baby, so the beatdowns didn't seem to bother you too much and you're a violent person so I definitely believe you stabbed the dude, not saying jim isn't, but you seem to want to bring that out in other, c4 being a good example.

 

he used my credit cards to get cash and buy bitcoins. I got the cash back, but he didn’t give me the thousand of dollars in Bitcoins he took. He did ruin me financially, but it’s my fault. I didn’t tell the card companies it was not me who kept that money. I left it as a punishment for myself and because I didn’t want to relive that experience over the phone just to save money. I wanted to forget about it.

 -he took money out of my cards to get bitcoins

-i got the cash back

-he ruined me financially

More like-

-i took out loans for school, used them to travel instead and give out money to others.

-didnt tell the the credit card company my card was stolen

-i didn't want to relive that experience even tho I constantly remind people i was raped and jim is a bad person for leaving me with a kid 

 

 I literally never said Jim is a bad person. I wanted a kid my whole life. I’m happy I have a baby. I don’t care who the father is. I was raped by Jim, but that wasn’t what made the baby. We had sex before that and it was not rape. The rape happened after I stopped liking him because he was needy and fat. He was only that way because he used my money to buy food always and he was poor when we first met, so he was skinny. I liked him because he was skinny. I don’t mind being hit when it’s a sex thing. He hit me not in the context of sex and I didn’t think he deserved my submission, so I didn’t submit. Trypt deserves it so I do submit, minus his attempts to make me stop drinking when I have alcohol left in my cup. I like to finish things, so I couldn’t leave it, mentally. It would have been on my mind all night and that would have driven me a bit crazy. I also seem to be addicted to this place. I think I if he allows me to be with him, I will stop drinking and coming here, but that’s not likely, so I’ll just enjoy what I have now. 

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I don’t remember hitting C4. I was drunk and then I hit my head. I don’t even remember be r him helping me after, but he said he did. I believe what C4 says because I don’t think he would lie, but I seriously have no memory of it and I don’t think I would do that to him because I liked him. We wrestled, so maybe it was an accident, but I was obviously too drunk to remember, so maybe it happened and I get violent when I’m drunk. It’s possible. I’m not ruling it out. I’ll ask Trypt because I don’t remember what happened this morning because I got too drunk because I got sad, so if I hit him then I’ll believe I hit C4. If not, I’ll forever be skeptical, but maybe I didn’t like C4 as much as I thought and I actually like Trypt so I’d never hurt him, even when I black out, but I guess I have to ask him if I hit him to determine the reason and my level of acceptance of C4’s depiction of the events.

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I was wondering where the kid was while she's with tryp tbh

Now that you've posted her talking about fucking Tryp with her kid in the bed, and her redefining the meaning of rape last night to just being "if they're forcefully telling you to stop and fighting back" in conjunction with her history of pedophilia, it really makes me wonder about the future of her kid. 

If this kid is largely ignored and sees "mommy" fucking guys for the attention the kid wants, then the kid's liable to pick up sex as a means of social commerce. 

 Honestly dude, I rather that be her thing than just being raped. I love my baby and I will make sure no one hurts her, including myself. 

So you're cool with raising your child learning to use sex to feel validated in lieu of proper parenting, at an unusually young age? 

 That’s not a thing. She will feel loved so she won’t need to have sex to connect with people. I will explain everything to her so she doesn’t make the same mistakes I do. That’s what being a good parent is about. 

 You've already accepted being a bad parent, multiple times while essentially going "but at least I'm not a narc."

You don't love her enough to keep her safe and even now you need a fuckin stranger that's said he'd groom a 15yo so now you dooming her to be in a situation where she could suffer through the same things you went through and you're literally fucking this man with her on the bed.  You can't explain anything to her about your mistakes because you can't even recall half the shit you do and you don't even care to change so you can lead through example.

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I don’t remember hitting C4. I was drunk and then I hit my head. I don’t even remember be r him helping me after, but he said he did. I believe what C4 says because I don’t think he would lie, but I seriously have no memory of it and I don’t think I would do that to him because I liked him. We wrestled, so maybe it was an accident, but I was obviously too drunk to remember, so maybe it happened and I get violent when I’m drunk. It’s possible. I’m not ruling it out. I’ll ask Trypt because I don’t remember what happened this morning because I got too drunk because I got sad, so if I hit him then I’ll believe I hit C4. If not, I’ll forever be skeptical, but maybe I didn’t like C4 as much as I thought and I actually like Trypt so I’d never hurt him, even when I black out, but I guess I have to ask him if I hit him to determine the reason and my level of acceptance of C4’s depiction of the events.

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