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Come on, Tryptamine.

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Blanc said: 

I don’t understand the topic can you please explain how one debates on whatever the “natural state of woman” is 

 It's a discussion on what constitutes the Being of woman from what Woman is to what Womans function in both being, becoming, and everything in between. 

It's an extremely difficult question to answer given the the fundamental nature of Womans being may be mutable and as such to really grapple with it you'd not only need to understand Woman but also have a theory of Change. 

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Blanc said: 

I don’t understand the topic can you please explain how one debates on whatever the “natural state of woman” is 

"The Natural State of Woman" is an idea that alfa types prescribe to over what women quote unquote "really need to be happy". The male chauvinist justifier will try to explain that the reason women are unhappy (unhappier than they've ever been even) is over how they're being given too many rights and responsibilities that are otherwise unnatural for them, and that they ought to stay in their caves birthing babies, cooking food, and otherwise maintaining the homefront while "the men" do "men's work". 

They then go on to explain that the degenerate state of society conditions them to act against their nature, to try to "act like men", when it is otherwise an unnatural state of living for them that will both not fulfill their needs and they won't do as good of a job at it as men. If they'd just give up their rights and accept their status as second class citizens, they'd find themselves more happy and childlike than they otherwise are now. 

In the "natural order" to these people, a man is to marry a woman who is younger than him so that he can show her how to live her life, and some go into Milf ideologies over how women who are barren are by design meant to train the younger men pre-30s in the ways of sex so that they may in turn train women younger than said males in the same patriarchal lessons, typically with some sort of "As God intended" nonsense or a pseudo-scientific justification about muscle mass. 

Considering how he felt uncomfortable talking about this with me in chat while otherwise insisting in a contradictional way to have his own opinion on the matter, I can't help but feel that his opinion on women is likely closer to 8kun's than mine is. 

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Blanc said: 

I don’t understand the topic can you please explain how one debates on whatever the “natural state of woman” is 

"The Natural State of Woman" is an idea that alfa types prescribe to over what women quote unquote "really need to be happy". The male chauvinist justifier will try to explain that the reason women are unhappy (unhappier than they've ever been even) is over how they're being given too many rights and responsibilities that are otherwise unnatural for them, and that they ought to stay in their caves birthing babies, cooking food, and otherwise maintaining the homefront while "the men" do "men's work". 

They then go on to explain that the degenerate state of society conditions them to act against their nature, to try to "act like men", when it is otherwise an unnatural state of living for them that will both not fulfill their needs and they won't do as good of a job at it as men. If they'd just give up their rights and accept their status as second class citizens, they'd find themselves more happy and childlike than they otherwise are now. 

In the "natural order" to these people, a man is to marry a woman who is younger than him so that he can show her how to live her life, and some go into Milf ideologies over how women who are barren are by design meant to train the younger men pre-30s in the ways of sex so that they may in turn train women younger than said males in the same patriarchal lessons, typically with some sort of "As God intended" nonsense or a pseudo-scientific justification about muscle mass. 

Considering how he felt uncomfortable talking about this with me in chat while otherwise insisting in a contradictional way to have his own opinion on the matter, I can't help but feel that his opinion on women is likely closer to 8kun's than mine is. 

What the fuck lol

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Damn what the fuck

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What the fuck indeed, check this shit from the 8kun topic

From 'How to deal with modern women?': 

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The problem is that women are from birth engraved with the notion that they are somehow equal to men. Throughout history, women have never brought much to the table in any area, but that is still very true, despite all the feminist efforts of the last few decades with women now entering virtually every male-dominated field. Women, on a sub-conscious level, understand this but are still focused on the idea that they should be able to compete with men in academia, science, technology, sports, business, etc. When they inevitably fail, they childishly take their frustrations out on the male part of the population. This is what causes their bitchy behavior and is a self-defense mechanism working to shield them from their own inherent lack of agency. The solution is simple really: Women have to start understanding that they will have to work very hard if they are to succeed and that you get nothing for free. Human males simply have a much stronger tendency for success. This understanding should hopefully foster better relations between the sexes. The only problem is that it goes against decades of feminist thought.

Engraved? Do you mean to say they are somehow born with that notion already inside them or do you mean to say that they are being "engraved" by propaganda from a very young age? It is correct that the assumption and belief in female equality is at the heart of our current troubles but that is absolutely not something that females are born with, believe me. In a natural environment without a warped and misguided artificial culture feeding them lies and men adhering to those lies as well, they would not hold this insane belief. Female equality is one of the many very obvious falsehoods people in the developed world are required to profess belief in that makes us all go insane. I'm so fucking sick of it, everybody but the most insane knows it's bullshit but we all have to pretend or be cast out from polite society. It is maddening.

But it is not an inherent belief of females that they are equal to men.

Indeed. I obviously meant that women are from a very early age fed the idea that equality exists between the sexes, not that they are born with it.

Yes and that myth of equality and its widespread acceptance is very much the ideological root cause of our destruction as a society. Not just between the sexes but equality between the races and equality between individuals too. Which is of course all bullshit. The natural reality of things is that they exist in a hierarchy. Somebody is always at the top, somebody is always at the bottom and most people fall in the middle. We know this from studies, it is fucking known to science but society is being lied to and required to repeat the lie in order not get cast out.

The steadfast believe in equality is what is fueling the feverish madness in trying to find and eradicate "Systemic racism". These people would murder their own grandmother if they though she stood in the way of achieving equality. It's really become the new religion of the left. One that they worship and are willing to kill for.


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It's like people suddenly forgot all about the nature of women. This whole equality bullshit really did a number on so many people. I see it so often, idiots go from thinking females are equal to then getting "redpilled" and thinking females are inherently rotten and irredeemable.

IDIOTS, IDIOTS, IDIOTS!

Let me tell you about females. They are weak, have no initiative and they are incredibly malleable, they like to be lead, they like to follow, they do not want to feel responsible. That means they always try as best they can to what they are told and what is expected of them. If they fail at this they start resenting themselves and go mad.


Now, one giant issue is the information age we are living in. It has changed everything. Females don't just get their cues from their fathers, their family and the local community. No, they get it from mass media, schools, governments, magazines, books, youtube, etc. Our society is rotten, and women adopt that. They try to perfect it, be the best little independent, strong equality whores they can be. They aren't misbehaving, they are doing as they are told.


That's the point you have to understand. They are doing what they think is expected of them because all the sources of authority tell them to behave this way. Women aren't virtuous by nature but neither are they rotten and useless by nature. By nature women are adaptable, they will try to be what is expected of them. Build a society where good things are expected of women and women will do good things. It's that simple. If that isn't good enough for you, women aren't for you then.

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Obviously you live a extremely sheltered faggoty life if you think women are a worse problem that being surrounded by niggers.

They definitely aren't a worse problem but the issue with women is that they are extremely manipulative, and at the same time easily manipulated. Niggers are just dumb apes that gobble up kike propaganda and can't really weaponize their fake reality (unless they have kikes doing it for them) because they are dumb as a rock. The average white female has the same IQ as a "smart" nigger. With niggers, once you take out the source of their brainwashing, they will just follow whatever you present to them. Women will fight against it and try to manipulate you in the process, whether it be through sexuality, feminism, reverse psychology, or other known heeb tactics, to get what they want.

Women aren't problem if there isn't anybody to make them into one. Weak men enabling women to be a problem is an actual problem. Women will flock towards the dominant ideology (see conversion to Islam in the UK, tradthots in the USA during the rise of the "Alt-right") because they have no spine, they aren't designed with one as is their nature. There's no fixing women without fixing the actual bigger issues first and once that's done women will actually not need anymore fixing because they will simply fall into place.

But there is no changing or fixing women for good. They will always by nature be cowards because they are by nature weak. It is not evil that drives them but weakness. They are not meant to fight, they are not meant to be courageous, they are not even meant to be loyal. They are meant to be protected, cared for, loved for their weakness (who would want to fuck a strong women, only a sexual pervert, pussy is meant to be weak and fucked by a strong cock). In return they serve you, admire you and worship you and they love doing that because it is their purpose. It's what they are meant to do and they will if you are worthy of it by being able to actually protect them and shield them from harm and provide a comfortable life for them.

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last edit on 11/19/2020 4:20:08 AM
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Come on, Tryptamine.

He'd lose femme street cred if he was too honest about this sort of thing publicly. 

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Oooh Tryp downvoted TC's comment, is a retort incoming? 

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No.

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No.

 So you concede?

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