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TPG said: 
TPG said: 
TPG said: 

How do you see the right by contrast? 

 on sc?

Yeah. 

at least they have taken the first step into recognising the establishment on both wings as a problem, they ought to be commended for that

What's the first step, doubt? 

The more recent variant since Nixon of Leftist doubting kicked in during Bush II here in the US, and both sides have deep state fears embedded into them based on their views on bipartisan corporate practices. I'd otherwise say much of the Trump vote's either the same right wing sentiments they already had or hype chasing ala Bernie and Yang, which isn't too far from the V-For-Vendetta cringe of the modern undecided voter. 

Both sides have their harpies being squeaky wheels, but behind the loudest among them's the same fear in a quieter more resentful form. Roger Stone's been a hateable name for decades now, and I'd say it's otherwise easy for the left to be smug when the right's acting like it's yet another end of the world story (similar to how the right treated the left when Trump won in 2016). 

We've otherwise had people of both parties against the bipartisan line by being hipsters that call themselves Libertarians, or otherwise call themselves some sort of Anarchistic or Disillusioned vote dodger. 

 i'm talking about leftists on sc

Me too. 

primarily inquirer

A foreigner. 

misscommunication, xena

Canadians of the same train of bipartisan logic as Spatial Mind. 

and the like

 

 i am unsure what their nationalities have to do with leftists in general on sc

"I see equal amounts of bipartisan stupidity based on how much they only allow themselves to read one party's rhetoric. Both have blatant scripts, and questioning "the enemy"s script is now a part of that script itself.

If they'd read both, it'd be that much clearer that both sides are selling narratives and that voting (if it's even real) should be done over their cabinets and policies rather than over the charisma of their elected puppet king. "

indeed, but the right wing on sc has taken the first step by admonishing both the republican and democratic establishments, seeing trump as more of an outsider, the three that i have mentioned still shamelessly propogate the DNC's propaganda, i am unaware of yours and quiet beefs opinions, but lena for sure has also been very anti biden (at least during the primaries) and anti trump, supporting sanders instead

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Xena and Missc are racist bitchesfull of anti-Chinese stereotypes, and should be raped and force-fed Chinese mens' piss, in order to break their racist ego. At least Missc has rectified the problem somewhat by apologizing. Xena still thinks she's a good person, without recognizing how much her oppression hurts us.

Where'd they show anti-Chinese sentiments? 

I definitely remember it from Spatial. 

 Xena refuses to believe that I'm Chinese because "she has worked with Chinese people and all Chinese people are soft spoken and polite".

MissC, if I remember right, has an anti-Asian sentiment because we stick together and form cliques.

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Xena and Missc are racist bitchesfull of anti-Chinese stereotypes, and should be raped and force-fed Chinese mens' piss, in order to break their racist ego. At least Missc has rectified the problem somewhat by apologizing. Xena still thinks she's a good person, without recognizing how much her oppression hurts us.

Where'd they show anti-Chinese sentiments? 

I definitely remember it from Spatial. 

 Xena refuses to believe that I'm Chinese because "she has worked with Chinese people and all Chinese people are soft spoken and polite".

Damn, yeah that's pretty reverse-racist, especially in lieu of how "soft spoken and polite" that their culture's had them otherwise not be. 

From my travels I've seen some abhorrent behavior from members of their culture, and they are not just rare exceptions towards some sort of rule but rather a real problem when it comes to Chinese tourists leaving a bad impression in other countries. I gave them far more of a benefit of the doubt until I took up traveling. 

Even from my experiences with Chinese-Americans... I'd not say they're all "Soft spoken and polite", especially not when many are shoving me out of the way to get ahead of me on busses and trains, and while I'd not say that's a matter of race I would say it's a matter of subcultural values that phase out as each generation born becomes more like the country they now call home. If anything, becoming less traditionally Urban-Chinese is a path towards politeness and humble-bragging, not defacing monuments and insisting that they have the right away as a matter of blood politics. 

MissC, if I remember right, has an anti-Asian sentiment because we stick together and form cliques.

I've never seen her speak against them personally, but political smugness does have a way of concealing racism as if it were status quo. 

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TPG said: 

 i am unsure what their nationalities have to do with leftists in general on sc

It affects how many degrees they are separated from US politics. If they were to speak of their own country, they'd likely do so differently, while those on here who are actually US natives have a very different take on it, much like Spatial and Scarlett in comparison to US right wing politics. 

indeed, but the right wing on sc has taken the first step by admonishing both the republican and democratic establishments

You haven't seen any leftists doing that? They tend to be the ones to carry more Green Party angst over having seen this sooner. I think the left is simply quieter about it unless they are from outside of the US trying to act like they know things, as disillusionment with government's pretty old hat from the left while otherwise mostly new to the otherwise conservatively nationalistic right. 

I think the right's just louder about it from it being topical, while many of the left became tired of debating with right wing people after 2016 through sheer oversaturation of their generally bullheaded faith politics. 

seeing trump as more of an outsider

Both sides see him as an outsider, but both have different opinions on what it means. 

While the right on here sees him as a maverick of social change (by contrast to ZOG-fear sentiments on deep-right forums), the left sees him as a scamming business man looking to line his ego and his pockets both. He is not a traditional president by the understanding of either party, and that's what makes him so interesting. 

the three that i have mentioned still shamelessly propogate the DNC's propaganda, i am unaware of yours and quiet beefs opinions, but lena for sure has also been very anti biden (at least during the primaries) and anti trump, supporting sanders instead

I'm not the biggest fan of Biden either, but like Contra's gone on about at least he can be bullied by public outcries. His former anti-drug stance for example's been phased out in lieu of what "the people" want much like how Leftists candidates began to support gay rights rather than bash them alongside the right wing. 

It's less that I hopefully voted for Biden and more that I defensively voted against Trump. I love the guy as a media icon, but the people behind him are ruining leftist freedoms in ways that give the Trump label a bad name. 

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last edit on 11/16/2020 8:29:03 AM
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Xena and Missc are racist bitchesfull of anti-Chinese stereotypes, and should be raped and force-fed Chinese mens' piss, in order to break their racist ego. At least Missc has rectified the problem somewhat by apologizing. Xena still thinks she's a good person, without recognizing how much her oppression hurts us.

Where'd they show anti-Chinese sentiments? 

I definitely remember it from Spatial. 

 Xena refuses to believe that I'm Chinese because "she has worked with Chinese people and all Chinese people are soft spoken and polite".

Damn, yeah that's pretty reverse-racist, especially in lieu of how "soft spoken and polite" that their culture's had them otherwise not be. 

From my travels I've seen some abhorrent behavior from members of their culture, and they are not just rare exceptions towards some sort of rule but rather a real problem when it comes to Chinese tourists leaving a bad impression in other countries. I gave them far more of a benefit of the doubt until I took up traveling. 

Even from my experiences with Chinese-Americans... I'd not say they're all "Soft spoken and polite", especially not when many are shoving me out of the way to get ahead of me on busses and trains, and while I'd not say that's a matter of race I would say it's a matter of subcultural values that phase out as each generation born becomes more like the country they now call home. If anything, becoming less traditionally Urban-Chinese is a path towards politeness and humble-bragging, not defacing monuments and insisting that they have the right away as a matter of blood politics. 

MissC, if I remember right, has an anti-Asian sentiment because we stick together and form cliques.

I've never seen her speak against them personally, but political smugness does have a way of concealing racism as if it were status quo. 

You have a very narrow view from a few experiences. It is not our culture to be polite or impolite. There really isn't much of a difference in politeness between native Chinese, first gen Chinese Americans, and whitws. 

Future gen Chinese-Americans tend to be polite and submissive, as that's what's they're pressured to be from the whites and the majority. Any deviation would make us look "foreign", or weird for an Asian. These are the only Chinese people that Xena has had contact with, giving her a very myopic view. Maybe she will realize her flaws if one of us stands up for ourselves and beats her and her family to a bloody pulp.

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You have a very narrow view from a few experiences. It is not our culture to be polite or impolite. There really isn't much of a difference in politeness between native Chinese, first gen Chinese Americans, and whitws. 

The overcrowding that happens in many Chinese cities leads to a might makes right mentality, much like you'd see from a litter of animals fighting over who gets first dibs on their mothers tits. This mentality is itself adaptive rather than racial, and is why we can see it phasing out as they leave. 

This same mentality though showcases itself in spades as tourists, and I recognize that it's mostly a problem due to Urban Overcrowding conditioning them in that direction. The ones who are more country tend to by contrast reflect a sense of isolation if not smaller-group politics, a sharp contrast compared to their city dwellers. 

Future gen Chinese-Americans tend to be polite and submissive

No shock there, the culture's leaders out of personal embarrassment have taking measures to hold their own citizens accountable when they travel through social-credit programs. If they're rude in another country now, they advise that people find ways of reporting them so that they can lose benefits back home. 

It's a tough measure, but it's liable to work based on where they've found themselves. 

, as that's what's they're pressured to be from the whites and the majority.

It's not just whites pressuring them, it's also everywhere they travel. They've left quite the cultural echo in other countries over their lack of respect towards their cultures and their sacred relics. 

Even in Thailand, where from my observation people seem to have a questionable ability to wait in a single file line, they still see the problem blatantly enough to have to address them more than other races when they're otherwise in larger groups. A sense of entitlement alongside a willingness to shove themselves to the front of lines and otherwise ignore social protocols has other countries becoming judgmental of them as a whole, even though this is itself's mostly reflecting their tourism from urban areas. 

To ignore the problem Chinese tourists and recent citizens are causing on other countries as a generalized culture is to ignore the rest of the world. 

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From what I gathered reading this thread. Xena has a higher opinion of Chinese people than TC.

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From what I gathered reading this thread. Xena has a higher opinion of Chinese people than TC.

You're just bitter that I called you racist when you couldn't answer too well why it'd be bad if China took over the US. 

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TPG said: 

 i am unsure what their nationalities have to do with leftists in general on sc

It affects how many degrees they are separated from US politics. If they were to speak of their own country, they'd likely do so differently, while those on here who are actually US natives have a very different take on it, much like Spatial and Scarlett in comparison to US right wing politics. 

 indeed, but i was talking of the general attitude of leftists on sc in specific

 

"You haven't seen any leftists doing that? They tend to be the ones to carry more Green Party angst over having seen this sooner. I think the left is simply quieter about it unless they are from outside of the US trying to act like they know things, as disillusionment with government's pretty old hat from the left while otherwise mostly new to the otherwise conservatively nationalistic right.

I think the right's just louder about it from it being topical, while many of the left became tired of debating with right wing people after 2016 through sheer oversaturation of their generally bullheaded faith politics. "

i have, not from leftists in general on sc 

the rest of your post is ignoring the original premise of the thread and is irrelevant

last edit on 11/16/2020 9:00:14 AM
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From what I gathered reading this thread. Xena has a higher opinion of Chinese people than TC.

They'ee both racist in different ways. Xena's "positive" racism is quite harmful in itself and I've explained it earlier in this thread. TC is a bigot and wants the world to be exactly the way he wants, by framing Chinese people as a "problem", just because we don't all act in the way he wants. Maybe fake-trans abominations like TC should kill themselves so it's more pleasant on other peoples' eyes.

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