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Early election indicators


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It's going to be a long night and final results could come in slowly, but there will likely be enough indicators tonight to call the election.

Factors at play: all 50 states (and Washington, D.C.) administer the vote differently according to their own rules, with different guidelines on how to vote, how to count the vote and how to report the vote.

Record-breaking numbers of Americans have cast their ballots early or by mail so nobody knows for sure how long it will take to get a result. 

This is clear:

·         Joe Biden is the favourite to win and his chances look better than Clinton’s in 2016.

·         If the polls hold and he wins by the margin predicted, that's likely to be obvious at some point tonight.

·         It will likely take days, at best to know the final count.

Poll timelines:
By 7 p.m. ish Eastern time, Biden and Trump should start marking their first wins. Parts of Indiana and Kentucky close polls at 6 p.m., parts of Florida at 7 p.m., parts of Kansas, Michigan and Texas at 8 p.m. and parts of Idaho at 10 p.m.

Networks don’t have to wait to call projections on a state. When the first polls close, Indiana and Kentucky will likely be projected for Trump right away, and Vermont will be called for Biden (these are no-brainers). That will give Trump 19 electoral college votes shortly after 7 p.m. against only three for Biden.

7:30 p.m. Some swing states will begin reporting results. West Virginia will likely be called for Trump after the polls close. This will push his electoral college vote tally to 24.

North Carolina and Ohio are expected to be very close — so even if the votes there are counted quickly, it might take a nearly complete count before a winner can be projected. But early trends in these three states could be telling, as these states are all must-wins for Trump.

8:30 p.m. Polls close in Alabama, Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, D.C., Florida, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Mississippi, Missouri, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island and Tennessee.

The networks will be able to make a lot of projections at 8 p.m. or shortly thereafter:
Looks like Connecticut, Delaware, Washington D.C., Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey and Rhode Island will go for Biden and Alabama, Mississippi, Oklahoma and Tennessee for Trump. That would put the count at 75 for Biden and 57 for Trump.

Time will tell!  :D 

 

 

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Ugh. They should get rid of that stupid electoral college.

Hint: Black Americans grandfathers are long past slavery, now. Every citizen is *allowed* to vote (except for the convicts and ex convicts in states where that's a thing... and that's another rant, entirely  :P)

So they don't need that stupid institution to make sure that wagonfuls of former slaves don't head off to the polls anymore.

 

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Xena said: 

Ugh. They should get rid of that stupid electoral college.

Hint: Black Americans grandfathers are long past slavery, now. Every citizen is *allowed* to vote (except for the convicts and ex convicts in states where that's a thing... and that's another rant, entirely  :P)

So they don't need that stupid institution to make sure that wagonfuls of former slaves don't head off to the polls anymore.

 

js.

 If the Dems get the Senate (likely) and the Presidency and retain the house they could feasibly get rid of the stupid electoral college. It's not a fair system. 

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Some indicators I saw earlier today on a podcast.

 

"Mask sales at Johnnie Brock's have predicted presidential elections since 1984"

Long story short. Trump masks outsold Biden masks. 66% t0 34%. 

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Trump wins Pennsylvania bakery’s cookie poll that called last three elections

Trump = 28,000 cookies

Biden = 5,000 cookies.

 

 

 

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The electoral college gives the small states a voice. You can't have California and New York city people dictating to the rest of the US. This would cause revolution.

 

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LiYang said: 

The electoral college gives the small states a voice. You can't have California and New York city people dictating to the rest of the US. This would cause revolution.

 

 Why not? California has the highest GDP in the country, NY too. Shouldn't the economic engines have a greater say in the direction of the US. As it is, the poorer states are calling too many shots.

I Took The Liberty Of Fertilizing Your Caviar.
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Some indicators I saw earlier today on a podcast.

 

"Mask sales at Johnnie Brock's have predicted presidential elections since 1984"

Long story short. Trump masks outsold Biden masks. 66% t0 34%. 

.

Trump wins Pennsylvania bakery’s cookie poll that called last three elections

Trump = 28,000 cookies

Biden = 5,000 cookies.

 

 

 

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LiYang said: 

The electoral college gives the small states a voice. You can't have California and New York city people dictating to the rest of the US. This would cause revolution.

 

 Why not? California has the highest GDP in the country, NY too. Shouldn't the economic engines have a greater say in the direction of the US. As it is, the poorer states are calling too many shots.

It's called the United States for a reason. Uniting them and giving a voice to all. The states are independent in government. In fact, most time, state law supersedes federal law, as long as it's not too crazy. Like weed. All states, no matter how small get 3 electorals. This has been a fair system. That's their voice, 3 minimum.

Economics would throw even more issues in the mix. I don't think using economics to split up voting power would be a good idea. You would have the farming/oil states cutting off food/oil supply to other states, not good imho. We need systems to bring people together not more division.

The electoral is not perfect but it works.

 

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Looks like Trump might take Florida, 91% reporting

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LiYang said: 

The electoral college gives the small states a voice. You can't have California and New York city people dictating to the rest of the US. This would cause revolution.

 

 The electoral college makes their voices smaller.

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