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You're not a fan of self-deprecating humor, are you user?

Fine I'll donate some money to the homeless shelter. The last time I did something bad I gave 4k USD to unicef but then I later found out that they're useless.

I'm not qualified to be a good person because my motivation is tainted. When I go to the heavens doors, God will know what my motives were. Just because I gave money to the homeless shelter to save myself doesn't make me good.

It's your naivety that I wish I could have. I can tell I am significantly older than you from the way that you speak. I appreciate that you try to mask your caring by nonchalance. I appreciate it. You should be talking with someone else, not me, though. You'll be tainted like the rest of them.

I won't show my tits to you, you're too young.

I don't know if I am in a situation to make amends, I'm certainly more wealthy than the average person and have the necessary educational and professional background to make a difference, both of which I achieved by doing things that made me undeserving of success. My crying and self-pity was more the results of abusing my position and focusing on my success instead of things that matter. I wasnt crying because I was unable to make a difference in this world.

last edit on 8/20/2020 8:44:52 PM
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Evil said: 

You're not a fan of self-deprecating humor, are you user?

Fine I'll donate some money to the homeless shelter. The last time I did something bad I gave 4k USD to unicef but then I later found out that they're useless.

So if you're a bad person, you can just throw money at the problem until it goes away?

That doesn't sound right to me. 

I'm not qualified to be a good person because my motivation is tainted. When I go to the heavens doors, God will know what my motives were. Just because I gave money to the homeless shelter to save myself doesn't make me good.

The odds of making it into Heaven are smaller than winning the lottery. From looking at the world population data sheet

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They estimate 108,760,543,791 births have occurred on this Earth as of 2019. Among those born of Human flesh, only 144,000 are estimated to make it into Heaven to become Earth's chosen generals to battle against Satan during The Rapture. Those of God will be made devoid of all sin, of all knowledge of sin, as it was before the apple with no real knowledge of self or it's importance (even his angels are practically aspie). Those of Satan will retain everything they've learned up to this point and become hardened for it in their battle for Freedom versus the Glorified Tyranny of God. 

You're better off ripping this bandage now. At least with Satan it's a form of immortality, with God it's just the promise of a lobotomy. Satan is the gold standard for music, history, culture, invention, art, cooking, basically everything life has to offer that allows us to enjoy ourselves, much of what constitutes the blood and sweat of Humanity over the course of it's existence, and he has done this by being the closest thing this world has to a Human Immortal.

Turn to Satan, you will at least still be yourself in the end as you fight in the name of Art and Culture. He is more Human than any human could ever hope to be. 

I can tell I am significantly older than you from the way that you speak. I appreciate that you try to mask your caring by nonchalance. I appreciate it. You should be talking with someone else, not me, though. You'll be tainted like the rest of them.

Are you trying to talk yourself down or something? 

I don't know if I am in a situation to make amends, I'm certainly more wealthy than the average person and have the necessary educational and professional background to make a difference, both of which I achieved by doing things that made me undeserving of success.

What the fuck one's goodness is not tied to one's wealth, in fact the symptomatic affluence from it tends to make for the opposite effect.

You could be a person wealthy in piousness and spirituality without being rich. 

My crying and self-pity was more the results of abusing my position and focusing on my success instead of things that matter.

Crying? 

I wasnt crying because I was unable to make a difference in this world.

I mean, you are unable to make a difference in this world, at least when it comes to something big picture. 

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last edit on 8/20/2020 9:03:30 PM
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Well if you put it that way it doesn't sound right, now does it? Maybe I won't donate to the homeless shelter after all. I don't think it would make me feel much better, anyway

I laughed at your satan story. Where did you get that 144000 and the rapture story?

Lobotomy doesn't sound too bad. It sounds like bliss not knowing or comprehending my sins. I like that you actually pulled the world population data sheet to bash a bible story Turncoat. I'm learning new things, I even went and checked that revelation 7 passage. I'm not really sure if it's conducive to my current mental state to adopt Satan as my lord and savior, or as any type of role model for that matter, though. I can ask my therapist what he thinks.

 

I'm not trying to talk myself down, what is that supposed to mean? And for that matter, I don't understand what you mean by `crying?` I already said I was crying when I wrote the OP, and repeating myself feels like I'm advertising it. I find the whole ordeal really funny now, though, so I guess I don't mind.

 

What does one's goodness have to do with wealth? Nothing. I was merely remarking that I do not know if I am in the position to make amends, and responded to user's question about my ability to swim, which I interpreted as having to do with my ability to help others. My financial situation certainly allows me to help others if I wish to do so. I just do not think it is the correct way to make amends. I more or less made your point for you.

 

Are you always so pessimistic about people's ability to change the world? What about those 144000, do you think they can change the world as we know it?

last edit on 8/20/2020 10:00:27 PM
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Evil said: 

I laughed at your satan story. Where did you get that 144000 and the rapture story?

The Book of Revelations (Revelation 14:1-4), and otherwise a general overview of The Bible. 

I'm not really sure if it's conducive to my current mental state to adopt Satan as my lord and savior, or as any type of role model for that matter, though.

Why? 

I can ask my therapist what he thinks.

Most therapists will tell you that Satan Worship is bad, but if you actually look into the tenants of Satanism it's not even about worshiping the Devil, but rather worshiping yourself, embracing Mankind for all it's worth in the here and now. 

What does one's goodness have to do with wealth? Nothing. I was merely remarking that I do not know if I am in the position to make amends, and responded to user's question about my ability to swim, which I interpreted as having to do with my ability to help others.

"Making Amends" is about doing something that absolves you of the weight of your burden. It's less about what you're doing for them and more about what the deed is doing for yourself. This is why people confess to God in the first place; It lets them let go of the weight of the burden by effectively snitching on themselves towards a timeless omnipotence that's stuck responding to you entirely rhetorically. 

Are you always so pessimistic about people's ability to change the world?

It's not pessimism, it's acceptance. I am fine with the general inability in more of an Existential way than a Nihilistic one. 


"Everything you ever love will reject you or die. Everything you ever create will be thrown away. Everything you're proud of will end up as trash."


Life is not about permanence, as much as it's within the human condition to insist towards it. It's constantly in flux, and nothing is meant to last forever. 

Enjoy it while you're here, you only get to experience it once. Even within Reincarnation logic you won't fully be yourself in another life, so make this one count. Sense what there is to experience to the fullest and awaken your senses further before they shrivel up and die, as we are the universe, multifaceted in it's observance towards itself. 

What about those 144000, do you think they can change the world as we know it?

It's more likely that the majority of them have existed and died already. 

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last edit on 8/20/2020 11:49:55 PM
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Do you have any good books on introduction to satanism I could read then? I believe there is something more to it than just this life. I don't feel all that bad anymore, either. Maybe that was just temporary. That small moment of regret in an everlasting chain of malice. I am fine with being evil again, and feel no need to linger on feelings that already faded. I have a large support network and the people around me love me, even if I am not deserving of their support and love.

Nevertheless, I appreciate your kind words. Not many people would take their time to respond to stuff like this.

What do you want in return? I'll make it up to you so we're even. Fair exchange.

last edit on 8/21/2020 4:47:54 PM
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Evil said: 

Do you have any good books on introduction to satanism I could read then?

Not really, but there's usually these tenets* being spouted whenever I talk to one: 

SEVEN FUNDAMENTAL TENETS

I: One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.

II: The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.

III: One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.

IV: The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.

V: Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.

VI: People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.

VII: Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.

 


I believe there is something more to it than just this life.

Why? 

I don't feel all that bad anymore, either.

You literally made a topic to cry about it. 

I am fine with being evil again, and feel no need to linger on feelings that already faded.

Why not just be a chill neutral? 

What do you want in return? I'll make it up to you so we're even. Fair exchange.

More future talks I guess? I dunno this is a weird question. 

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last edit on 8/21/2020 10:31:16 PM
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Those tenets look a bit different from the impression I get from Hollywood movies where the satanists sacrifice humans to the great lord and savior red goat. If those are the fundamental tenets then it seems like it's closer to secular beliefs rather than religious ones.

Why I believe there is more to it than life? The same reason I believe in anything, out of necessity. That there is an afterlife is better than there not being one, I adopt that belief for the same reason I adopt any other belief, due to its usefulness. Why do you believe what you believe? Nobody has any better reasons  than that.

Jesus Christ is the idealized figure that we can choose to strive towards. But where once I was motivated by emotions, I am now motivated by a desire.  I know I cried when I made this topic, but I no longer feel that strongly about it. My feelings have highs and lows, as does my level of caring. Now I no longer care as much about being good, I don't know how else to explain that.

More talk? I was hoping you would share something personal with me now so I can make you feel better in return and we can bond or something. But then I probably would have found that disingenuous and ironically it would've had the opposite effect from that which I desired.

last edit on 8/22/2020 5:04:29 PM
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Well. Seems like you're not up to making amends anymore, and you've basically admitted this thread is a dramatisation. Which means I don't really have anything to play with anymore.

 

Something to bond over you say, sure:

I'm user. I like memes. Do you like memes?

last edit on 8/22/2020 9:23:02 PM
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I'm sorry if I misled you. Here I thought someone cared about me, but it was all contingent on me becoming a good person wasn't it? I never meant to dramatise, I simply felt emotional and now I no longer feel that way. There was no intended malice or deception in my OP.

There's little that would help me bond with someone as young as you. Are you Turncoat? That question was for him.

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I'm not turncoat. You seem to misunderstand. Don't know why you'd ask me this lol. Can't you read my username?

And apology accepted.

On the other hand, you seem to have been misled by me, on accident. I never meant for you to believe I care about you, or to bond, or to have you show me your tits. My comments so far were meant to ridicule you. I'm not sorry for this misunderstanding, in fact, I'm quite happy it happened because this generated a humorous situation.

 

I would like you to re-read my posts, and consider their meaning carefully this time around.

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