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Neither can women.

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I dont really understand why some have to view success as bad. Just because a group of people did good and are successful? I don't get it.

Is this envy? What is causing this?

 

 It is racist that we don't use the math systems Nigeria or Cameroon invented.

 if its better, we should use it. had no idea it was even there.

 

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Neither can women.

 https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/five-historic-female-mathematicians-you-should-know-100731927/ 

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Blanc said: 

Ben Carson. 

 Ben, Carson. Neurosurgeon. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Carson 

 

Benjamin Solomon Carson Sr. (born September 18, 1951) is an American politician, public servant, author, and retired neurosurgeon who has served as the 17th United States Secretary of Housing and Urban Development since 2017. He was a candidate for President of the United States in the Republican primaries in 2016, at times leading nationwide polls of Republicans.[3] He is considered a pioneer in the field of neurosurgery.

Carson became the Director of Pediatric Neurosurgery at the Johns Hopkins Hospital in 1984 at age 33; he was the youngest chief of pediatric neurosurgery in the United States.[4] He was also a professor of Neurosurgery, Oncology, Plastic Surgery, and Pediatrics at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine.[5] Carson's achievements include performing the only successful separation of conjoined twins joined at the back of the head; performing the first successful neurosurgical procedure on a fetus inside the womb; performing the first completely successful separation of type-2 vertical craniopagus twins; developing new methods to treat brain-stem tumors; and revitalizing hemispherectomytechniques for controlling seizures.[6][7][4][8] He wrote over 100 neurosurgical publications. 

Carson has received numerous honors for his neurosurgery work, including more than 60 honorary doctorate degrees and numerous national merit citations.[9] In 2001, he was named by CNN and TIME magazine as one of the nation's 20 foremost physicians and scientists, and was selected by the Library of Congress as one of 89 "Living Legends" on its 200th anniversary.[7] In 2008, Carson was bestowed the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the highest civilian award in the United States.[10] In 2010, he was elected into the National Academy of Medicine. 

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 UN names late Maryam Mirzakhani among 7 women scientists who shaped the world 

Iran Press/Europe: The UN Entity for Gender Equality and the Empowerment of Women (UN Women) anointed Mirzakhani, who passed away of cancer at age 40 in 2017, on Friday, the International Day of Women and Girls in STEM — science, technology, engineering, and math.

“Although Mirzakhani passed away [of cancer] in 2017, her invaluable contributions to the field of mathematics endure, and her trailblazing career has paved the way forward for many women mathematicians to come,” UN Women said in a statement.

Mirzakhani, a leading scholar on the dynamics and geometry of complex surfaces, became the first and to date only woman to win the most prestigious award in mathematics, the Fields Medal, in 2014.

The brilliant Iranian mathematician won the prize — considered the equivalent of the Nobel Prize for mathematics — “for her outstanding contributions to the dynamics and geometry of Riemann surfaces and their moduli spaces,” according to the award citation.

UN Women also honored Chinese pharmaceutical chemist Tu Youyou, whose discovery of a medicine for malaria has saved millions of lives across the world. Tu and two of her colleagues won the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 2015. She became the first Chinese Nobel laureate of this category and the first Chinese woman to receive a Nobel Prize in any category.

UN Women also named Kiara Nirghin, the South African winner of the 2016 Google Science Fair for creating a super absorbent polymer that can retain over 100 times its mass when she was only 19.

Katherine Johnson, 101 years old, was another mathematician honored by UN Women. An African-American NASA scientist, Johnson was one of NASA’s “human computers” whose calculations helped send American astronauts into orbit in the 1960s and the Moon in 1969.

Marie Curie, the Polish and naturalized-French physicist and chemist who died in 1934, was also praised by the UN as the first woman to win the Nobel Prize for her work on modern nuclear science.

Marcia Barbosa, a Brazilian physicist known for her research on the complex structures of the water molecule, was another female scientist named among the top seven.

https://iranpress.com/europe-i143966-un_names_late_maryam_mirzakhani_among_7_women_scientists_who_shaped_the_world 

 

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Iranian mathematician who was the first woman to win the Fields medal

 

In 2014 the Iranian mathematician Maryam Mirzakhani, who has died aged 40 of cancer, was awarded the Fields medal, the discipline’s most celebrated prize. The 52 previous recipients had all been men. Maryam won it “for her outstanding contributions to the dynamics and geometry of Riemann surfaces and their moduli spaces”.

Surfaces are basic objects in mathematics, appearing in many guises. The surface of our planet is a sphere, but from local observations alone one cannot be sure of this: the Earth could be shaped like a bagel, for example, or a bagel with a few handles attached. A bagel-like surface is known in mathematics as a torus.

To make a torus, one can take a square piece of material and glue the bottom edge to the top to form a cylinder, then bend the cylinder and glue its ends together. A less distorted view of the torus is obtained by thinking of a square video screen with a character that wanders off the top only to reappear at the bottom directly below where it exited, and then wanders off the left edge but reappears at the right, moving with the same speed and direction at the same height. This character is living on a flat torus.

One can vary the shape of the torus by making the screen rectangular, or by skewing it to be a parallelogram (identifying points on opposite sides with a suitable shift). The variety of shapes that arise is described by a moduli space – a mathematical object where each point represents a specific flat torus.



Maryam Mirzakhani discussing her work
If we replace our square screen with a regular octagon, retaining the rule that when our character disappears across an edge it emerges at the opposite edge, then our character is no longer living on a torus: we are now observing it moving around a “surface of genus 2”: a sphere is a surface of genus 0, a bagel is of genus 1, and genus 2 can be drawn as a bagel with a handle, and so a second hole. If we replace the octagon by more complicated polygons, we observe our character living on higher genus surfaces: we are looking at flat models for surfaces obtained from a bagel by attaching more handles.


With a rectangular screen, the four corners of our flat model fit together so that the glued-up torus is flat everywhere. In the higher genus case, naive gluing produces a cone point, so a distorted, non-flat geometry is needed to get a smooth, homogenous glued-up surface. This is hyperbolic geometry, which lies at the heart of much of what Maryam achieved. The moduli space for tori is itself a surface, but the moduli spaces for higher genus surfaces (and surfaces with punctures) are high-dimensional objects whose beguiling structure is enormously rich and complicated, presenting huge challenges to our understanding.

Maryam’s earliest breakthroughs answered fundamental questions of classical origin concerning the hyperbolic geometry of individual surfaces. Straight lines on a torus are easy to understand: according to the slope it follows on our flat screen, the line will either wind around the torus indefinitely without intersecting itself, or it will wind around a few times and then close up, repeating its trajectory. The behaviour of lines (geodesics) on hyperbolic surfaces is vastly more complicated.



 
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Counting how many closed geodesics there are of a given length is a subtle problem that requires ideas from number theory and analysis (advanced forms of calculus) as well as geometry. In her Harvard PhD thesis (2004), Maryam gave a precise estimate of how many of the closed geodesics of a given length do not cross themselves, though in order to solve a simply stated problem about curves on a single surface, it was necessary for her to understand all manner of additional structures on the space of all surfaces of the same genus.

Her later breakthroughs were rooted in dynamical systems. Such systems describe motion. They arise throughout mathematics and physics, and through appropriate abstractions one can transfer knowledge gained in one setting to whole classes of problems in another. Thus a penetrating study of how a billiard ball bounces around a polygonal table can provide insights into the behaviour of many physical systems (the motion of gases for example), and equally it can be used to build bridges between different aspects of the structure of moduli spaces.

This is a key theme in Maryam’s monumental project to illuminate the geometric and dynamical properties of moduli spaces, much of which was joint work with Alex Eskin from the University of Chicago.

Born and brought up in Tehran, Maryam was the daughter of Ahmad Mirzakhani, an electrical engineer, and his wife, Zahra (nee Haghighi). She spoke warmly of her parents’ encouragement and support, and credited her older brother, one of three siblings, with firing her interest in mathematics by explaining to her what he was learning at school.

She won a place at Farzanegan secondary school, for exceptionally talented students, where she found inspiring teachers and friends. Supported by her headteacher, Maryam entered mathematical competitions previously reserved for boys and represented Iran at the International Mathematical Olympiad, winning gold medals in 1994 and 1995, the second with a perfect score. She gained her bachelor’s degree at Sharif University in Tehran, and in 1999 she moved to Harvard, where she studied under the direction of Curtis McMullen, also a Fields medallist.

A calm, modest and friendly person, with immense intellectual ambition, Maryam spoke eloquently about the fun that she had unravelling the intricate mysteries that she spent her life exploring, and the joy of getting to know the key characters that emerged and evolved in the unfolding of her mathematical plots – a joy that resonated with her childhood dream of becoming a writer.

Her doctoral thesis brought her widespread recognition and a fellowship from the Clay Mathematics Institute, in New Hampshire, giving her freedom to pursue her own research agenda. She was assistant professor and then professor at Princeton University (2004-08) before moving to Stanford University as professor.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/jul/19/maryam-mirzakhani-obituary 

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If anything, math tends to be more classist than racist. 

 Yes, many of the greatest mathematicians grew up in the lower class. 

What about the normal ones? 

 This is primarily anecdotal as I've never looked into the stats (department of labor may have some data pertaining to this) but the majority of the mathematicians I know come from the middle and lower class. 

The few that come from wealthy backgrounds are pretty mediocre usually but they are very good at flying up the bureaucracy that is the University. This seems to be a problem in many departments in fact. The project I oversee is a joint effort between the Department of Applied Mathematics and Department of Computer Science, both heads being mediocre in their fields but come from well connected rich backgrounds. 

 

Blanc said: 

Ben Carson. 

 Yes many blacks are brilliant and have contributed great things to our civilization. 

The title of this thread is not to say black people literally cannot do math. It's merely to reveal the ironic position many leftist groups have taken that belittle the abilities of blacks in hope to progress them socioeconomically. 

Blacks are underrepresented in STEM and obviously face a poverty issue. Instead of encouraging blacks to go into science, maths, and engineering , such groups campaign to have STEM and Academia boycotted because they're racist. Blacks on average score very poorly on maths tests. Instead of advocating responsibility and discipline, these groups start campaigns to show that Maths is oppressive.

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If anything, math tends to be more classist than racist. 

 Yes, many of the greatest mathematicians grew up in the lower class. 

What about the normal ones? 

 This is primarily anecdotal as I've never looked into the stats (department of labor may have some data pertaining to this) but the majority of the mathematicians I know come from the middle and lower class. 

The few that come from wealthy backgrounds are pretty mediocre usually but they are very good at flying up the bureaucracy that is the University. This seems to be a problem in many departments in fact. The project I oversee is a joint effort between the Department of Applied Mathematics and Department of Computer Science, both heads being mediocre in their fields but come from well connected rich backgrounds. 

 

Blanc said: 

Ben Carson. 

 Yes many blacks are brilliant and have contributed great things to our civilization. 

The title of this thread is not to say black people literally cannot do math. It's merely to reveal the ironic position many leftist groups have taken that belittle the abilities of blacks in hope to progress them socioeconomically. 

Blacks are underrepresented in STEM and obviously face a poverty issue. Instead of encouraging blacks to go into science, maths, and engineering , such groups campaign to have STEM and Academia boycotted because they're racist. Blacks on average score very poorly on maths tests. Instead of advocating responsibility and discipline, these groups start campaigns to show that Maths is oppressive.

Cancel culture to destroy the "privileged" so the others that are oppressed can succeed.

Some people just don't like or are not able to do math. Just like some are not artistic.

 

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tfw I'm black

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holmes said: 
I dont really understand why some have to view success as bad. Just because a group of people did good and are successful? I don't get it.

Is this envy? What is causing this?

 

 It is racist that we don't use the math systems Nigeria or Cameroon invented.

 if its better, we should use it. had no idea it was even there.

 

 It isn't better. We use Arabic bc it is the most efficient. People just want something else to complain about. We don't use whatever niche math systems black people invented therefore math is racist.

Sc is pretty boring.
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