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The problem is that you have misinterpreted what Hell would actually be like. first of all it is never guaranteed that you would be capable of recalling memories in hell

If you can't recall memories, then your suffering will never mount on itself. How is one to be punished if they can't even remember what they're being punished for? 

God wants people to be purged of the knowledge of Good and Evil, of their Humanity, of their independence and autonomy, similar to the spirit-robots he's made that we refer to as "Angels". Satan meanwhile is perfectly fine letting us amass wisdom, history, passion, and these are more easily built on the back of experience, of memory. Even The Bible refers to "Wisdom as meaningless", referring to how it makes for more weight to carry while otherwise not bringing you any closer to God. Satan meanwhile loves these long term concepts, for that is the sort of suffering he's been going through for longer than we can comprehend. "Misery loves company" and all that. 

When the battle between Heaven and Hell happens, it'll be as Evil Colleagues fighting a war against Naive Children (Recall the story of Lot, and how retarded God's Angels were. That's going to be the nature of his army.)

These are all the Bible verses on Hell: https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justin-taylor/ten-foundational-verses-for-eternal-punishment-in-hell/

being burned alive, eternally lonely without the ability to experience love joy or any form of satisfaction forever. literally unending, constantly, forever and ever with no breaks or opportunity to escape. you would not get to think about anything except being tortured constantly and even if you were able to recall memories there would be no pleasure in recalling past memories, because you wouldn't be able to experience any form of pleasure at all

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While SMBC uses this as an argument against Hell, I see it as reason to suspect that newbie souls are conditioned into disturbing fetishy demons who no longer see it as suffering in the long run. 

It's like being hazed as inductees for a fraternity, eventually you're fucked with so much that you want to do the fucking. 

You come across foolish if you truly would not try to save yourself from that by doing whatever you had to do to prevent it

Wanting to go to Heaven just for "the reward" is itself sinful through missing the point. 

I also still see that as better than going to Heaven. 

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last edit on 4/9/2020 5:16:05 PM
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0 votes RE: Most Compelling Argumen...

The problem is that you have misinterpreted what Hell would actually be like. first of all it is never guaranteed that you would be capable of recalling memories in hell

 

These are all the Bible verses on Hell: https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justin-taylor/ten-foundational-verses-for-eternal-punishment-in-hell/

being burned alive, eternally lonely without the ability to experience love joy or any form of satisfaction forever. literally unending, constantly, forever and ever with no breaks or opportunity to escape. you would not get to think about anything except being tortured constantly and even if you were able to recall memories there would be no pleasure in recalling past memories, because you wouldn't be able to experience any form of pleasure at all

 

You come across foolish if you truly would not try to save yourself from that by doing whatever you had to do to prevent it

Sounds unfair tbh.

What sort of justice is getting an eternity of torment for sinning?

Gay justice, that ain't a good god innit. Being tortured eternally for whatever shit you pull on your years on earth is simply not just. It's unacceptable as a punishment. 

To be good is to be just, and fight for justice. You cannot accept this form of punishment as justice, and cannot serve a god that pulls this type of shit in good faith.

unjust definitely, but deceptive too. I need to write all the examples in the Bible of God deceiving humanity on purpose

Why should anyone put their faith in a supernatural being that has no problem with allowing and encouraging deception?

 

I should write out a list of all the times the Biblical God allowed and encouraged deception. There isn't one online yet. but it's like basic common sense 101 to not put your trust in someone who has clearly shown that deceiving you is fine with them

oh but don't you dare try to deceive God or other people, because God hates Liars lmao

Why was a deceptive snake allowed to be in the garden of Eden in the first place? because God allowed it. Deception has nothing to do with free will tho hmm as in it is completely unnecessary for free will choosing god to save you from sinning to also include deception as part of that plan. Deception apparently isn't "evil" if God does it/allows it

And why is sinning so very often rewarded in this lifetime? It encourages people to keep sinning because it feels good. That is a huge form of deception

Why would God let something he hates, feel good to his children LOL. He literally designed humans to be rewarded in pleasure sensors when engaging in all different sorts of various sin

God sees all of Time and Space at once, and every choice made has His hand on it. 

God wanted this to happen, all of it, or else it'd be going differently. "The Brahman" or Existentialism's "The Universe" is said to be "Witnessing itself through us", yet God is supposed to have seen far beyond the present from being a 5+ Dimensional Being. 

While we can't relate to God from Him having more in common with Machines than Man, we can definitely sit here and blame Him. It really has me ask of Him being "incapable of sin", as isn't that only reserved normally for things like robots and animals, creatures who have yet to be exposed to the fruit's profane knowledge?

Does God potentially not understand Good vs Evil, and has strict rules and Satan there, requirements of Man, as a framework so that He never has to? 

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