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Just read this book reeeeeee

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_Sisyphus

Have you actually read it? This is one of those things that gets referenced to death without anyone actually reading it. 

The selling point of a book about a man pushing a rock up a hill with the overarching narrative insisting that it could be fun doesn't really seem relatable to me. Based loosely on this anyway: 



The presentation seems as if he thinks we can just "choose" whether to endure the toil of life or kill ourselves, but the options aren't that binary, especially when someone like myself doesn't believe in the idea of 'choice'. There's so many degrees in between, like what of the people who'd choose to neither push the boulder nor kill themselves, but merely sit against the rock to give themselves shade? 

Does the story actually make the absurd make more sense, or merely illustrate a scenario to prompt some optimistic rhetoric in lieu of the Nihilism that'd make more conventional sense? It's like they keep trying to explain it, but there's always a portion of the text that just leaps over some very realistic hurdles through assuming that someone could just switch on a suspension of disbelief.

"Just do it" is itself absurd in how the advice can't be followed as simply as it's requesting. The stages of letting go of convention are treated like jumping a cliff. 

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Just read this book reeeeeee

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_Sisyphus

Have you actually read it? This is one of those things that gets referenced to death without anyone actually reading it. 

The selling point of a book about a man pushing a rock up a hill with the overarching narrative insisting that it could be fun doesn't really seem relatable to me. Based loosely on this anyway: 



The presentation seems as if he thinks we can just "choose" whether to endure the toil of life or kill ourselves, but the options aren't that binary, especially when someone like myself doesn't believe in the idea of 'choice'. There's so many degrees in between, like what of the people who'd choose to neither push the boulder nor kill themselves, but merely sit against the rock to give themselves shade? 

Does the story actually make the absurd make more sense, or merely illustrate a scenario to prompt some optimistic rhetoric in lieu of the Nihilism that'd make more conventional sense? It's like they keep trying to explain it, but there's always a portion of the text that just leaps over some very realistic hurdles through assuming that someone could just switch on a suspension of disbelief. 

Honestly Camus really isn't that great and the Myth of Sisyphus is overrated, though maybe it only seems that way because as you say it is often brought up by people who've never read it.

The Stranger is much more relatable but still...boring. 

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Reading through this, I get some sense of what you think of the absurd, but not what you think the absurd is.

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Just read this book reeeeeee

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_Sisyphus

Have you actually read it? This is one of those things that gets referenced to death without anyone actually reading it. 

The selling point of a book about a man pushing a rock up a hill with the overarching narrative insisting that it could be fun doesn't really seem relatable to me. Based loosely on this anyway: 



The presentation seems as if he thinks we can just "choose" whether to endure the toil of life or kill ourselves, but the options aren't that binary, especially when someone like myself doesn't believe in the idea of 'choice'. There's so many degrees in between, like what of the people who'd choose to neither push the boulder nor kill themselves, but merely sit against the rock to give themselves shade? 

Does the story actually make the absurd make more sense, or merely illustrate a scenario to prompt some optimistic rhetoric in lieu of the Nihilism that'd make more conventional sense? It's like they keep trying to explain it, but there's always a portion of the text that just leaps over some very realistic hurdles through assuming that someone could just switch on a suspension of disbelief.

"Just do it" is itself absurd in how the advice can't be followed as simply as it's requesting. The stages of letting go of convention are treated like jumping a cliff. 

 I did read it. 5 years ago, when I needed to masquerade as someone that gives a shit about intellectual philosophical stuff. I think it's good for illustrating Camus general view on things.

Are you going to stand in the proverbial shade of the boulder with reading it, or did you read it and found it kinda not satisfying?

 

Just read this book reeeeeee

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_Sisyphus

Have you actually read it? This is one of those things that gets referenced to death without anyone actually reading it. 

The selling point of a book about a man pushing a rock up a hill with the overarching narrative insisting that it could be fun doesn't really seem relatable to me. Based loosely on this anyway: 



The presentation seems as if he thinks we can just "choose" whether to endure the toil of life or kill ourselves, but the options aren't that binary, especially when someone like myself doesn't believe in the idea of 'choice'. There's so many degrees in between, like what of the people who'd choose to neither push the boulder nor kill themselves, but merely sit against the rock to give themselves shade? 

Does the story actually make the absurd make more sense, or merely illustrate a scenario to prompt some optimistic rhetoric in lieu of the Nihilism that'd make more conventional sense? It's like they keep trying to explain it, but there's always a portion of the text that just leaps over some very realistic hurdles through assuming that someone could just switch on a suspension of disbelief. 

Honestly Camus really isn't that great and the Myth of Sisyphus is overrated, though maybe it only seems that way because as you say it is often brought up by people who've never read it.

The Stranger is much more relatable but still...boring. 

 Yes! Gruesomely boring, both of them. I liked The fall tho.

A shadow not so dark.
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If you could accept the absurd, would it still be absurd? 

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If you could accept the absurd, would it still be absurd? 

That depends on if I notice what's wrong with it. 

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Alright TC show us on the picture exactly where the absurd touched you 

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