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Moral good according to who, "The Collective"? 

Depends what you mean by collective.

"The Will of the People". 

Human people?

What else is "people" to you? 

Our best interest is in line with following God since he can do anything for us. Think of it as a bribe but a good kind. Oh wait, that's called a reward.... Heaven

Following God's path is only good for God. 

Also, there's passages expressly saying that you shouldn't be a Christian just for the prizes, for the bribe. Your using this to peddle people towards your path is actually you selling them towards the flames. 

Overall it is for the good of the entire universe as God is all wise.

No, it's only for His own idea of good, and I believe it was from your holy texts, not mine, that Wisdom has been construed to be meaningless (in Ecclesiastes)? 

Ecclesiastes 1:14: “I have seen all the things that are done under the sun; all of them are meaningless, a chasing after the wind.” The key phrase is under the sun, which is repeated throughout the book. Solomon is sharing an earth-bound perspective. He is only considering life “under the sun”; that is, a human life lived to the exclusion of any consideration of God. From that godless perspective, everything is indeed “meaningless.” Without God, human wisdom is meaningless (2:14–16); labor (2:18–23); amassing things (2:26); life itself (3:18–22); competition (4:4); selfish overwork (4:7–8); power and authority (4:16); greed (5:10); wealth and accolades (6:1–2); and perfunctory religion (8:10–14).

God commends the spiritually wise.

It's not wisdom nor experience if it's only through reading a book, and wisdom in the traditional sense is dashed to the side by "God's People" as a distraction. 

The book horribly misuses the word when it comes to His path, as it's actually a lack of wisdom that makes for a more "true" convert. 

That's the big picture. Following God is not at odds with personal happiness either. 

Why should the big picture matter to small people? 

Lol

For real though, especially with how few people he's actually going to allow into Heaven, why sweat this stuff? 

It'd be easier to get 1st chair in a professional orchestra than go to Heaven. 

There's a common quote in church "The chief end of man is to glorify Him and enjoy Him forever".

...yet he doesn't want you to follow him in the name of salvation or it's prizes, just sheer obedience. 

Fucking slave religions man, they're designed so that you never feel like you're doing a good enough job unless your head's up your own ass. 

Sheer love. Love is fun and is the ultimate happiness.

Love can be found without God, but not without Nature. 

He's eternally wise, creative, and potent. 

Timelessness is very different from being merely eternal, and from the looks of things God's sense of "creativity" is heavily dwarfed by Satan's. 

Compare Christian Rock to Death Metal and you'll see what I mean. 

God and Satan sometimes want the same thing but different outcomes. God wants a good outcome with you. The devil wants you to suffer with him.

God doesn't understand the human condition, he can't even understand what our perspective of time is other than through his Jesus proxy. 

Satan meanwhile does experience time like we do, albeit immortally. He's far more human than God, and thereby much more relatable. 

Why change for someone else? 

Not all rock I listen to is Christian. Some is romance rock.

That's likely sinful in some form, you ought to stop before it gives you ideas. 

The difference is sin brings fleeting highs of pleasure but God brings happiness. God and happiness go hand in hand.

Happiness can come from way more things than just God's path. 

Not the kind of happiness that is regardless of circumstance. Lasting inner peace.

Peace without my humanity intact is no different than desiring a lobotomy. 

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Blanc said: 

you can't just do this to people as if you're above the law because you think you're on some godly high horse and your religion makes it okay to hate people??? 

Why is it not okay to hate people? 

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But .. the gay. The gay is So BIG tho

Sc is pretty boring.
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I am spreading love just like God asked

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I am spreading love just like God asked

I'd rather covet and possess love imo. 

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last edit on 2/29/2020 1:33:06 AM
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Blanc said: 
Blanc said: 

it's not your fucking responsibility to punish people for who they are. 

it's just not. it's not your place. 

Is it yours? 

It's what you're doing, right now. 

no I normally wouldn't be this abrasive but she came at me hardcore

Did she make this topic exclusively about you? 

I'm just as gay as you are, and I don't feel personally offended. It's not her fault that she thinks this way, it's the fault of a religion that's centuries older than either of us that's otherwise inducted and shaped her impressionable little mind. 

Nothing personal. 

If God told me to be a lesbian I would do it. Might be against my ideals of attractive but I'd have to trust Him. God says what He says. It doesn't mean we are sinless but that we can't deny what is a sin.

and if she has the right to be so abrasively expressing her very rude opinions thwarting them out, then she, is asking for that kind of backlash and I have the right to be just as open and forward about my thoughts and opinions here. 

True, but you could also try to be accurate. 

I kinda predicted this in my original post. I said the culture considers biblical truth a declaration of war. 

I'm not punishing anyone though, I'm just expressing what I think and feel about this topic.

It's only not punishment because she's not taking it as such. 

Punishing? It's called informing. 

It's about loving God and trusting that He plans for your good in His laws.

same as she did, about my sexuality. 

She's discussing it expressly through a philosophical path though, you're just airing out how offended you are. 

 What's going on in your life blancy? You had a bad day? 

The only personal thing I've said in the past was that I think Turncoat should not transition. It's for the benefits of it in dating, in spiritual life, and etc. Not that I'm angry about it. If he does do it then it doesn't change much other than I worry about him.

last edit on 2/29/2020 1:33:52 AM
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Blanc said: 
Blanc said: 

it's not your fucking responsibility to punish people for who they are. 

it's just not. it's not your place. 

Is it yours? 

It's what you're doing, right now. 

no I normally wouldn't be this abrasive but she came at me hardcore

Did she make this topic exclusively about you? 

I'm just as gay as you are, and I don't feel personally offended. It's not her fault that she thinks this way, it's the fault of a religion that's centuries older than either of us that's otherwise inducted and shaped her impressionable little mind. 

Nothing personal. 

If God told me to be a lesbian I would do it.

No, you wouldn't. 

Might be against my ideals but I'd have to trust Him. God says what He says. It doesn't mean we are sinless but that we can't deny what is a sin.

Oh just wait for the day that Satan's forked tongue mimics His glory... You won't even know the difference within your style of worship. 

The texts are rigidly there, as they are, for a reason. If you hear God telling you to fuck ladies, then that's likely not God. As a timeless being, why would he wait to tell you this later instead of just refer you towards the literature? 

and if she has the right to be so abrasively expressing her very rude opinions thwarting them out, then she, is asking for that kind of backlash and I have the right to be just as open and forward about my thoughts and opinions here. 

True, but you could also try to be accurate. 

I kinda predicted this in my original post. I said the culture considers biblical truth a declaration of war. 

Tumblr people aren't everyone yet

I'm not punishing anyone though, I'm just expressing what I think and feel about this topic.

It's only not punishment because she's not taking it as such. 

Punishing? It's called informing. 

It's about loving God and trusting that He plans for your good in His laws.

See, proof Fae isn't taking this as "punishment", but rather as "funishment". 

same as she did, about my sexuality. 

She's discussing it expressly through a philosophical path though, you're just airing out how offended you are. 

What's going on in your life blancy? You had a bad day? 

The only personal thing I've said in the past was that I think Turncoat should not transition. It's for the benefits of it in dating, in spiritual life, and etc. Not that I'm angry about it. If he does do it then it doesn't change much other than I worry about him.

How is transitioning going to affect my spirit at all? Spirits aren't physical, and if transitioning doesn't really count as changing your gender than you having a crush on me wouldn't be sinful. 

Honestly, if you really cared about me, there'd be much more pressing concerns that you'd have noticed by now. 

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last edit on 2/29/2020 1:43:49 AM
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Blanc said: 
Blanc said: 

it's not your fucking responsibility to punish people for who they are. 

it's just not. it's not your place. 

Is it yours? 

It's what you're doing, right now. 

no I normally wouldn't be this abrasive but she came at me hardcore

Did she make this topic exclusively about you? 

I'm just as gay as you are, and I don't feel personally offended. It's not her fault that she thinks this way, it's the fault of a religion that's centuries older than either of us that's otherwise inducted and shaped her impressionable little mind. 

Nothing personal. 

If God told me to be a lesbian I would do it.

No, you wouldn't. 

I would. If the bible was written that way. 

Might be against my ideals but I'd have to trust Him. God says what He says. It doesn't mean we are sinless but that we can't deny what is a sin.

Oh just wait for the day that Satan's forked tongue mimics His glory... You won't even know the difference within your style of worship. 

The texts are rigidly there, as they are, for a reason. If you hear God telling you to fuck ladies, then that's likely not God. As a timeless being, why would he wait to tell you this later instead of just refer you towards the literature? 

and if she has the right to be so abrasively expressing her very rude opinions thwarting them out, then she, is asking for that kind of backlash and I have the right to be just as open and forward about my thoughts and opinions here. 

True, but you could also try to be accurate. 

I kinda predicted this in my original post. I said the culture considers biblical truth a declaration of war. 

Tumblr people aren't everyone yet

I'm not punishing anyone though, I'm just expressing what I think and feel about this topic.

It's only not punishment because she's not taking it as such. 

Punishing? It's called informing. 

It's about loving God and trusting that He plans for your good in His laws.

See, proof Fae isn't taking this as "punishment", but rather as "funishment". 

same as she did, about my sexuality. 

She's discussing it expressly through a philosophical path though, you're just airing out how offended you are. 

What's going on in your life blancy? You had a bad day? 

The only personal thing I've said in the past was that I think Turncoat should not transition. It's for the benefits of it in dating, in spiritual life, and etc. Not that I'm angry about it. If he does do it then it doesn't change much other than I worry about him.

How is transitioning going to affect my spirit at all? Spirits aren't physical, and if transitioning doesn't really count as changing your gender than you having a crush on me wouldn't be sinful. 

Honestly, if you really cared about me, there'd be much more pressing concerns that you'd have noticed by now. 

 I don't have a crush on you though. 

Tell me about them. You keep ignoring my pms. 

 

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Moral good according to who, "The Collective"? 

Depends what you mean by collective.

"The Will of the People". 

Human people?

What else is "people" to you? 

I thought maybe angels and demons. Depends who you ask. Humanity is divided.

Our best interest is in line with following God since he can do anything for us. Think of it as a bribe but a good kind. Oh wait, that's called a reward.... Heaven

Following God's path is only good for God. 

Also, there's passages expressly saying that you shouldn't be a Christian just for the prizes, for the bribe. Your using this to peddle people towards your path is actually you selling them towards the flames. 

Yeah you shouldn't do good for a reward. People just expect God's will to be at odds with their desire for happiness. What I mean is that... obeying God is not synonymous with suffering.

Overall it is for the good of the entire universe as God is all wise.

 

That's the big picture. Following God is not at odds with personal happiness either. 

Why should the big picture matter to small people? 

Lol

^

For real though, especially with how few people he's actually going to allow into Heaven, why sweat this stuff? 

It'd be easier to get 1st chair in a professional orchestra than go to Heaven. 

Because the ironic part is that heaven is that heaven is free. It's a gift of grace and He promises never to reject anyone who comes to Him the right way. Come humbly in surrender to the gospel for mercy. Don't try to earn salvation or favour with God. Ask Him for help to overcome sins. Grow in a trusting relationship of faith.

 
 



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