Freyja stated: source post
Awww Tony... this whole MGTOW thing makes me really sad 😕
As someone who (for slightly different reasons) has all but given up on dating and relationships, I totally get where you're coming from. But you're only in your 30s and in good health. I think when you're 60, or whenever it's reasonably too late to have the traditional happy ending with marriage and a family, you'll look back with real regret that you gave up so soon.
Thing is, your being lonely (which you obviously are, don't deny it) and unable to find anyone who meets your standards is a problem that's perfectly solvable, but you're choosing not to solve it.
My auntie died a couple years ago. She was a lovely lady, but always had so. many. problems... Finances, relationships, her health problems, her cat's health problems, stuff going wrong with her house.. "it's just everything all at once" was one of her favourite expressions. All fixable stuff, but if you dared to suggest a logical solution to any of it she'd get irrationally angry. She once put the phone down on me for suggesting the name of a carpet fitter after she'd been complaining she couldn't find anyone to fit a carpet! She didn't really want a solution to any of it, she just wanted somebody to say "oooh poor you, life has been so tough on you!"
This is how you're being with relationships. You want to be admired for your 'philosophy' and pitied for how tough modern life is for a guy like you. You don't even want to find someone at this point, because if you end up alone it proves you were right. You're cutting off your nose to spite your face.
I've had a few long term relationships. Wasn't single for that long at this point, but I want to be single. The woman I wanted to be with is too messed up, the women I can have this minute aren't single, or I don't have any interest or intent or any attraction to them, I'm just cordial. When I look back I regret passing on a lot of opportunities to be with women I know would have lasted many decades, with offspring but I wasn't available due to being in a another relationship. I never jumped ship for my own needs, cause I'm considerate of my partners, and I don't cheat. It's the golden rule especially in bonds of trust between myself and women.
I never expected to fall for a woman ever again, but it happened not that long ago, ( she was venomous ) and though I'm cured of that, it'll probably happen again, and if/when it does, then I'll bring my A game and go for that instead of just settling with someone.
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Now I'll share something else with you. How my MGTOWness actually works. I'll measure all women I cross paths with, even in here and even with you, Freyja. It seems like it'd be nice to have a woman like the one I see you being now, and sometimes we agree on a fair amount of subjects and it's pleasant when you're not baiting me, like you might be doing now. However, every time you appear Eddie is usually bumping around somewhere back there, and there's no denying that you've been an accessory for Ed's long conquest to get under my skin at his request, which is followed up by these hot and cold flashes designed to bite large chunks out of me, so that's two of other things that deters me from you in particular. For other women, there's not always such deterrents in place, but I find the majority of women I interact with to be undesirable keepers.