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Evolution is not a proven theory... show me ANY missing link to singular cell evolution... can't... can't prove G-d... CAN prove limited amounts of evolved mutated organisms which help support a theory... can prove limited accounts of the Bible that help support a theory... circular argument... "let us presume evolution to be 100% correct..."... "Let us presume the Bible to be 100% from G-d"... circular Dude... let go...

And What was my point again?  Why are you stilling hijacking this thread?

lol...

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it is proven: via fossil records and dna research
the theory explains how it works. the above^ shows it has happened.

 

no account in the bible, other then factual history, is proven lol. like none, not one shred of evidence is there to support God.

 

i am hijacking, because i don't care if i am hijacking.

 

i don't really care what your original point was, i don't remember the OP, but i guessed your point is that evolution and god are both flawed and based on faith.

to deny evolution is plain stupid.

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ThenFuckit stated: source post

it is proven: via fossil records and dna research

Ever hear of the theory that states it was the Devil who planted those onto the Earth to confound the Christians? 

The Devil could be why Science is advancing in a direction away from Religion. 

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"We all could just be really bad at shedding unconscious beliefs we form from peer modeling. I mean how many of us have seen a person legitimately defy gravity? It could be an intense form of massive groupthink on a planetary scale. Maybe we just need to focus our chi, our ki, our psynergy, and then we can transcend the limitations we see before us that form when we're mere babies who only know the world that was shown to us. For all we know we could be being weighed down by excess Thetans."

There is the Global Consciousness Project: http://global-mind.org/

it seems to prove that global state of mind has physical effects on the world. but they are much smaller then gravity
And gravity seems to have existed before humanity was there to have faith in it.

I think its possible that people can influence matter only with their minds, but there is too little data to take this into real account, for now. However it is a good speculation point of view, mainly due to the Global Consciousness Project's results, which are undeniable link between people's state of mind and their machines random generation(they set up machines that generate random numbers all over the world and they work 24/7, and when there are big events like 9/11 or big football games, the numbers become biased and not random).

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it could also all be fake, i never did the research myself, so maybe its all a great conspiracy and all the education i ever had is faked too

or this is the matrix

 

but yeah, i have heard that lol.

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It's really simple....swing the crowbar at the base of the skull of those that believe that this is only a dream. 

Then wait for their report.

 

So, which part of the story needs revision?

Adaptation within the species, in a short time period..

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Virus stated: source post

No there isn't... it's all subjective and mostly flawed... a lot like Religious Facts...

Dinosaurs to birds... theory...

that's all All this is... theory... and a big circular argument... that got off topic... lol

Theory in science is not the same as theory in every day usage, man.  There is a fuckload of data supporting evolution, we can't deny that. Why would a Creator creating all at once as it is even bother to leave evidence supporting evolution? Still, random mutation can't explain the multitude of creatures in such a short time imo. Every little feature we have, to have been gained by chance, and all the other individuals who didn't have it dying off or not reproducing? What about the smaller traits that are not life or death decisive, that were only mildly helpful, and that were still "selected"?

My q is, why don't you think a Creator created life by allowing and guiding it to evolve? By influencing the chance of mutation? Why does there to be a separation between creationism and evolutionism?

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God threw the dice into primordial soup.....whatever happened after that....well...that's the greatest show on Earth...lol...

The rest is  a ton of navel gazing and drool collecting in belly buttons...

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i dont think it, because there is no evidence of it.
there is not enough evidence to even speculate on the subject(based on evidence alone)
and i do not believe in a creator
and i do not believe that there is a high possibility of a creator

I think the mechanisms of evolution explain the species diversity/existence given the time it took for species to form.

jfyi, its not every little feature is gained by chance and all the other individuals who didn't have it died off or didn't reproduce, there are many small genetic differences between individuals in the same species and there are recessive genes and genes that only some individuals of a species have, etc.
its called a gene pool, another mechanism of evolution.

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The theory of evolution is only a theory. There are no successful simulations of duplicating amino acids under the right conditions to support the primordial soup aspect of the "theory", and no missing links between us and them have ever surfaced and never will. Though Darwin's theory is at the forefront of scientific text, it's still looked at with skepticism by scientist around the world, because it does not explain how a living organism spawned from the non living.

People believe in the theory of evolution, not because it makes sense, but because they have faith in an idea, and this idea is still being researched almost 200 years later.

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