Edvard stated: source post
Why do you think Sugar keeps bringing me into these fights, intentionally trying to mess up my relations with females here though? It happened with Rass (edit: and Pray) too.
lool..when did i try to mess up your relationship with pray?
How disappointing. You're really going to pull the ol "this was my genius plan all along" crap? Really? Your attempt at gaslighting me by saying this is all me, is also a lazy one. True, I could have said that what you were saying wasn't true, but you never believe me when I tell you the truth, so it's a waste of energy.
The truth at this point is that you're wrong about me, and that for months you've been acting like you have legitimate reasons for looking down on me, but you don't. You've called me weak and sad more than once recently because you think I'm attacking you with puppets that aren't even mine. You said I was trying to manipulate you in pm and that you felt embarrassed for me, when I was just laying out the truth for you. And instead of be brave about this obvious error in your judgment and admitting you were wrong, you choose to turn it around and play the "I didn't do anything, you're just acting crazy" card. The one who has a problem with people seeing how vulnerable she is... that's you.
Now, take your spanking like a big girl and for once admit that sometimes you are a cunt for no good reason. I doubt anyone will respect you any less.
Sugar stated: source post
lool..when did i try to mess up your relationship with pray?
When you were trying to convince me Pray was messing with me, manipulating me, and for a long time even that she was WFE.
Sugar stated: source post
yes ma'm! one thing though, why would i be like 'i was wrong' when the only thing that has happened is that you now claim you were joking about being WFE..not exactly definitive proof. other than that, i am willing to take my spanking and even enjoy it slightly :D
You used this "you recently propositioned ed and got turned down" against Raven, dragging me into your troll bluffs and traps. How wasn't that wrong?
ThenFuckit stated: source post
You chase Xena and feed her ego, as if she is a fat ego maniac and you like to feed her.
Do I really seem to you the type who gets off on pleasing other people and feeding egos just for the sake of it? The fuck
There is proof of that Xena is ego boosted by you, because she acts differently only to you. She doesn't seem to mention anyone else in a good light
So if someone mentions another one in a good light, it means that person boosts their ego? I thought it was the other way around. And yeah, recently Xena and I had a disagreement and she capslocked to me to go fuck myself. You must have missed that.
I do not know about a post in a voice thread? The thread about talking? I remember a post in some thread where people describe each other.
Thread was called Be the voice of another member or smth like that.
I defended my opinion about not defending my opinion.
Yeah and I called you defensive for it.
And the argument was that i was not defending my opinion on that political thing, or something.
No, my repeated argument was that you were defensive about NOT continuing the conversation. Something which you just admitted here but refused and failed to see on the thread.
"Why are you still engaging in these debates without saying anything and even pretending to not care? We all agreed you have nothing to bring to the table, hop off."
^my attack, to which you became defensive
You: "I am not defending myself or my points on that subject. I am just stating my conclusions, because i like to."
Me: "You are defending your lack of engaging in the debate. "You are sttooopid" and "I don't care". If this is true, then stop posting, dude. Why the fuck are you explaining yourself."
Me: "This is you bitching and repeating excuses for NOT talking about things."
Me: "I got that you won't talk about it with me dude. I was mocking you continuing to tell me that you won't talk about it over and over again, instead of just shutting the hell up and not talking about it."
And on and on you kept going, failing to get my point and providing hilarious entertainment.
I do not even remember the details, all i know is that you missed the context of the conversation,
The fucking irony XD
And if there is one truth, in anything we have discussed for the last few months, it is that Islam is a violent religion. It is the most violent one, its essence, idea, everything, is violence. Its the most violent things that i have seen, as an ideology.
You claimed you wanted to shoot a random family of muslims in the streets and bash the head of their 4yo because you feel threatened by their violent religion. Even if you don't, you'd support it and think it was the easiest way to kill them all. In essence, you would do THE EXACT THING THEY ARE DOING, for the same reasons, and just as violent. Why the fuck blame religion if you are acting or at least thinking the same? Are you a muslim? No, you're part of a select few of crazy people who think this is a justified attitude. Muslims have their own share of such people, and more reasons to feel threatened by non muslims, given the fact that we kinda blew up their fucking countries already and are attracting and influencing their youth into the western culture.
Actually, what i said is, thats what i want to do. And i would try to do it, if it was acceptable. But i like other people, who do not like me doing that and i also like to be free. So i wouldn't actually do it, or even try to.
I do not think for a fact that i can carry out the things i want to do. But i know for a fact that i want to do them and i would try, if i was in the right situation.
i do not know if i can do anything that i say i want to do. But i know i want to do it, which is what i said...
You're so damn confused, what a mess. You said you'd try, then not try, then again try within a few sentences. You say you'd WANT to in the right situation...but probably not do it. What do you think would stop you? You suddenly not wanting it anymore? Lmao. Why would you change your mind?
You don't even know yourself. What you'd do in your fantasies blurs and confuses you as to what you'd do in reality. Can't get more of a fantasist than this.
I do not know how i would feel about it after that. I have expectations, but i do not know for sure. Also, you have to realize, i love to talk exaggerated violent bullshit, its fun, i try not to, when talking with you, because you will take it literary, but when i am just shitposting, its exaggerated. Like when someone comes in chat and has a problem with people, i tell them to kill that person. If they do, i would actually find it hilarious, but i do not expect that and i honestly do not care.
I get the exaggerating thing, it's edgy and "genocide is cool". When you shitpost and shittalk in the middle of a serious conversation though, don't go around and say it's the other guy who can't be talked to.
Edvard stated: source post
Do I really seem to you the type who gets off on pleasing other people and feeding egos just for the sake of it? The fuck
Not really, but i thought its funny xD
There is proof of that Xena is ego boosted by you, because she acts differently only to you. She doesn't seem to mention anyone else in a good light
So if someone mentions another one in a good light, it means that person boosts their ego? I thought it was the other way around. And yeah, recently Xena and I had a disagreement and she capslocked to me to go fuck myself. You must have missed that.
When Xena only mentions one person like that on the entire site, that she calls full of idiots, thats how it seems like to me. Yeah, you will have disagreements eventually and it will end. I expect that to happen. I liked Xena too, before.
I defended my opinion about not defending my opinion.
Yeah and I called you defensive for it.
Yes, thats fine.
And the argument was that i was not defending my opinion on that political thing, or something.
No, my repeated argument was that you were defensive about NOT continuing the conversation. Something which you just admitted here but refused and failed to see on the thread.
Ok, if thats what you meant, then i was defending myself. I still think you missed the context. But its irrelevant either way.
"Why are you still engaging in these debates without saying anything and even pretending to not care? We all agreed you have nothing to bring to the table, hop off."
^my attack, to which you became defensive
Ok, you are right.
I do not even remember the details, all i know is that you missed the context of the conversation,
The fucking irony XD
Its just not important lol.
And if there is one truth, in anything we have discussed for the last few months, it is that Islam is a violent religion. It is the most violent one, its essence, idea, everything, is violence. Its the most violent things that i have seen, as an ideology.
You claimed you wanted to shoot a random family of muslims in the streets and bash the head of their 4yo because you feel threatened by their violent religion. Even if you don't, you'd support it and think it was the easiest way to kill them all. In essence, you would do THE EXACT THING THEY ARE DOING, for the same reasons, and just as violent. Why the fuck blame religion if you are acting or at least thinking the same? Are you a muslim? No, you're part of a select few of crazy people who think this is a justified attitude. Muslims have their own share of such people, and more reasons to feel threatened by non muslims, given the fact that we kinda blew up their fucking countries already and are attracting and influencing their youth into the western culture.
So, because i am violent, it excuses them in your eyes or something? If i act violently, they are not a religion of violence? How is what i do related to their religion? I am not even a part of it. Its not a justified attitude, you fucking mongoloid. I know its not justified, its just enjoyable to think about doing. I fucking swear, you are an imbecile. I can fucking imagine and think whatever i want. Its like i talk to a deaf wall, if you do not understand something i explained in detail again, i will just not engage you, you are impossible, seems like on any subject. You just keep twisting back to your own beliefs, even when i specifically explain what i mean. I never ever said its justified, i said its not... maybe i didnt use the exact word "justified", but i said thats not the right thing to do, it doesn't make sens and there are better solutions. You inbred twat. I said i like it.
Actually, what i said is, thats what i want to do. And i would try to do it, if it was acceptable. But i like other people, who do not like me doing that and i also like to be free. So i wouldn't actually do it, or even try to.
I do not think for a fact that i can carry out the things i want to do. But i know for a fact that i want to do them and i would try, if i was in the right situation.
i do not know if i can do anything that i say i want to do. But i know i want to do it, which is what i said...
You're so damn confused, what a mess. You said you'd try, then not try, then again try within a few sentences. You say you'd WANT to in the right situation...but probably not do it. What do you think would stop you? You suddenly not wanting it anymore? Lmao. Why would you change your mind?
No, i said i want to try to if the situation allows it. I said wont do it, if it doesn't. And i said its not justified to do(in almost all situations) and it makes no sense(in almost all situations), so i shouldn't do it. But i still want to try to do it, i just know i shouldn't. So in other words, if it does happen to be justified and the situation allows it, then i would try to do it. When all the conditions are met. I can't think of a scenario where it is justified, but i was thinking abstractly, if it was justified. Whats so confusing about that? Maybe you can't follow me, thats your problem.
Nothing would stop me from trying once the conditions are met.
You don't even know yourself. What you'd do in your fantasies blurs and confuses you as to what you'd do in reality. Can't get more of a fantasist than this.
I know myself very well right now. You do not know me and project that, because you think you do, because you put people in boxes and are small minded. I know thats a fantasy, so i need to make sure when i test if i can act it own in real life, i can survive the consequences and it doesn't go against the values i have decided to follow, even if i feel like i want to go against them(there is a separation of emotions and reason). Its common practice in my life, everything i have ever done was a fantasy at first. You are so full of yourself. I have made a system around everything i do in my life and my personality and my behavior.
I do not know how i would feel about it after that. I have expectations, but i do not know for sure. Also, you have to realize, i love to talk exaggerated violent bullshit, its fun, i try not to, when talking with you, because you will take it literary, but when i am just shitposting, its exaggerated. Like when someone comes in chat and has a problem with people, i tell them to kill that person. If they do, i would actually find it hilarious, but i do not expect that and i honestly do not care.
I get the exaggerating thing, it's edgy and "genocide is cool". When you shitpost and shittalk in the middle of a serious conversation though, don't go around and say it's the other guy who can't be talked to.
Thats because you think there is anything serious on this site xD. I did not pick my username for no reason and i do not say "i don't care" for no reason either. This site can burn in hell or rise to the moon, lol, its all the same to me. I do what i do here mostly on a whim, its so rare i would get serious about anything here(so rare i can even tell you exactly which times, but i do not want to, because this site is not worth it) and when i do, i usually do it off this shit hole.
I remember reading a post of yours while i was gone that went something like "Meta left becasue he thinks he is above this place", i do actually think that. I might not be above some of the people here, but this place? This place is nothing serious or even close to being relevant. Every post i make usually contains bullshit for humor that often only i get and giggle at. But i do like it when someone else gets it and its worth doing it for those moments.
ThenFuckit stated: source post
You claimed you wanted to shoot a random family of muslims in the streets and bash the head of their 4yo because you feel threatened by their violent religion. Even if you don't, you'd support it and think it was the easiest way to kill them all. In essence, you would do THE EXACT THING THEY ARE DOING, for the same reasons, and just as violent. Why the fuck blame religion if you are acting or at least thinking the same? Are you a muslim? No, you're part of a select few of crazy people who think this is a justified attitude. Muslims have their own share of such people, and more reasons to feel threatened by non muslims, given the fact that we kinda blew up their fucking countries already and are attracting and influencing their youth into the western culture.
So, because i am violent, it excuses them in your eyes or something? If i act violently, they are not a religion of violence? How is what i do related to their religion? I am not even a part of it. Its not a justified attitude, you fucking mongoloid. I know its not justified, its just enjoyable to think about doing. I fucking swear, you are an imbecile. I can fucking imagine and think whatever i want. Its like i talk to a deaf wall, if you do not understand something i explained in detail again, i will just not engage you, you are impossible, seems like on any subject. You just keep twisting back to your own beliefs, even when i specifically explain what i mean. I never ever said its justified, i said its not... maybe i didnt use the exact word "justified", but i said thats not the right thing to do, it doesn't make sens and there are better solutions. You inbred twat. I said i like it.
I never justified any terrorist acts. The hell you got that from. My point is they feel justified in their own sick minds, the same way you'd feel justified to act on your own violence by the "right conditions". I'm not justifying anything. I'd support rounding up everyone suspected to have links to IS and fucking ruining them. Erdogan did it in one week with 70 000 people he had listed to have "Gülen" sympathies. Each European country has lists of people with strong IS sympathies, who present a high risk for terrorism, who are a danger for merely being allowed to exist in society and talk to others. The governments choose to merely watch/supervise them, often inefficiently. France has 10 000 for example, the most. The UK has 2000 or so. A firm crackdown on them would change everything imo.
Replying to your next point will make my original point clearer:
So in other words, if it does happen to be justified and the situation allows it, then i would try to do it. When all the conditions are met. Nothing would stop me from trying once the conditions are met.
This is exactly how the terrorists think. Their right conditions are met. Why the fuck blame islam for it when you are the same, and would do the same? Kill innocents because they are part of a group you believe to be threatening? It's obvious to anyone able to step back an make logical connections that it has to do with (in)human nature, as this behavior - with a select few willing to carry it out - exists regardless of religions, races (blacks vs cops conflict), ethnicity (germans vs jews, turks vs kurds) etc.
So in essence, if i had my current mindset and i was indoctrinated by Islam, i would act violently, but Islam is not the reason. Even thought the only difference, according to what you said, would be that i have an Islamic ideology.
Yes it is human nature to be aggressive and Islam is a catalyst for it.. which is why its a religion of violence. One of the reasons why i am not being violent is because i am not a part of that religion. If i honestly thought killing people would let me go to a magical place with sunshine, rainbows and 72 virgins and the people i kill are just the scum of the earth, then i would do it. Thats what Islam says, in its holy book, the Bible doesn't say that, maybe you can interpret it like that, but the Quran is very direct and straightforward.
I have chosen to rise above my stupid behavior and instincts. And i have been more calm and living much better. I still get those feelings and fantasies and i would be a fool not to try to act on them if its justified(explained in below paragraph). If i was in an Islamic country, my life would be shit and not only because the countries themselves(non ideology-wise) are shit.
But in a modern, normal society, i see no justification. Its a waste of life and possibly decent people. But i will not deny and delude myself, that i do not feel or think, or fantasize what i do, because to do so is to suppress myself and to end up worse. Its better to admit what you think/feel and get over it, one way or another, either act on it(but don't feel regret, or you didn't think it through), or think of/find some other way to make yourself feel at ease.
And i think everyone should do this and be themselves. The response of others might be hostile, as it is with normal people towards jihadists. And this is how it should be, but what shouldn't be is pretending connections(Islam -> violence) do not exist. What shouldn't be, is any kind of pretense. It disturbs the natural order of chaos that is the world. If there was no pretense, jihadists would kill people and then the survivors would not be so tolerant to the cause of the violent behavior, which would end the violence eventually, this is the natural way of action and reaction, but right now, its being dulled and slowed by pretense, which only delays it and costs more lives of people who did nothing to deserve death.
And to fix this, i must at least voice out the problem, because it is within my power to do so. And i should do this, because i believe people should get what they deserve and i believe people should not die(even if i feel otherwise, on a primal, absolutely emotional, irrational level) and there is more, but its becoming more stretched and less relevant, as everything i think is derived from something bigger and split into simpler points, for easier following. And no deviating of these points should happen, as it will have unknown consequences.
Everything i do, i do for a reason. Or no reason, which is also a reason xD(this is the humor part, that you do not get).