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They were Northern Irish.

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Also, from what I've been told, IRA lost its ideals long ago and moved on to drug-peddling. And that they only times they've tried to be full-blown revolutionary is when UK is weak. Hence their siding with the Nazis during WW2. They seem very undemocratic and more extremist.

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Wish that were the case Trypt, however, if you take a closer look...you will notice something quite different...

 

How sharia law became embedded in our political debate

 

Debate over Sharia Law finds its way to SC State House

WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 3RD 2016

"The Sharia Law works there," said Adly, "So why would we not bring it to America if you really care for America? When you want to stop or be against the Sharia law, you are saying we don't want muslims to be muslims."

Which then by current standards, makes you a 'racist", 'Islamophobe' or whatever label someone wants to attach. One could say it is a 'slippery slope' but in reality it is not. 

House Democrats Just Moved to Implement SHARIA LAW in America…

Not quite...it's a sideways move...

“Now, therefore, be it resolved, that the House of Representatives denounces in the strongest terms the increase of hate speech, intimidation, violence, vandalism, arson, and other hate crimes targeted against mosques, Muslims, or those perceived to be Muslim; urges local and Federal law enforcement authorities to work to prevent hate crimes; and to prosecute to the fullest extent of the law those perpetrators of hate crimes”

It remains specific to muslims. 

"Islamists are attempting to impose Shariah Compliant Finance (SCF) on Western institutions to use our own financial strengths against us," the group writes on its blog dedicated to the issue, Shariah Finance Watch. "The most serious problem with SCF is that it legitimates and institutionalizes Shariah law… a theo-political, legal doctrine violently opposed to Western values."

AND...they have that up and running on US soil...so....all happening under your noses...same elsewhere in the world...Last 20 years has been really bad for it...all in the name of remaining Politically Correct...lol...

 

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I don't believe sharia law will ever become an official thing

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I certainly hope  not at any rate. Won't be in our life times. However, the precedent is already set with the SCF in place in Western countries, which is a problem. That should not have been tolerated at all. As an immigrant, you pay the interest rates and do your business according to the same laws as everyone else. But...not Muslims, they are the special snowflakes...lol...Fawk....whatever...legally it creeps in ever so subtly and then later on everyone screams...'How could this happen?" ...lol...and so it goes...

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"Also, from what I've been told, IRA lost its ideals long ago and moved on to drug-peddling. And that they only times they've tried to be full-blown revolutionary is when UK is weak. Hence their siding with the Nazis during WW2. They seem very undemocratic and more extremist."

"From what you've been told" is a fairly significant take-away from this opinion, interesting though it is.

I don't think I ought to get into my opinion of the IRA here :P Needless to say, I grew up in Ireland in the 90's. I've a fairly firm grasp on the modern state of political affairs in an admittedly turbulent corner of the world.

I will freely admit that I don't understand the sociopolitical dynamism of the USA, as I've never lived there. You'd be wise to do the same for Ireland :P

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haart stated: source post

I don't think I ought to get into my opinion of the IRA here :P

Where if not on here?

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Inquirer stated: source post

 

haart stated: source post

I don't think I ought to get into my opinion of the IRA here :P

Where if not on here?

It's very difficult to explain the IRA to people with no ties to the U.K. or Ireland, who don't have the time (or inclination) to thoroughly engage with the topic; Real, Official, Provisional, Continuity etc. The IRA isn't one entity. To speak of "the IRA" is a gross misnomer in itself.

It's an insanely nuanced and complicated topic. I don't think SC is the place for insanely nuanced and complicated topics :P

I can summarise my opinion by suggesting that accusations of terrorism and extremism may not be completely unfounded, but are a bit reductive without an understanding of context.

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haart stated: source post

It's an insanely nuanced and complicated topic. I don't think SC is the place for insanely nuanced and complicated topics :P

I suppose you have a point in that...

I can summarise my opinion by suggesting that accusations of terrorism and extremism may not be completely unfounded, but are a bit reductive without an understanding of context.

Someone's freedom fighter is someone else's terrorist, I guess.

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"Someone's freedom fighter is someone else's terrorist, I guess."

My point in essence, I suppose.

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