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Buttered Toast stated: source post

Often the seemingly disjointed or loose associations are actually rapid, accumulated "mini-connections" that just manifest faster than proper linguistic communication can keep up with.

I'd personally recommend writing them down. If once they're on paper they make sense from someone else being able to come to your conclusions at their own pace, then you're probably right, but if it still looks like nonsense to them then there may be something else going on. 

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i use analogies to explain things that follow a linear path, but the other person can't understand how thats possible.

and everything follows a linear path, its just that that line can spread into many lines.

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It sounds like you do not relate to others around you. Which is not inherently good or bad. I understand where you are coming from. Human minds can be like a puzzle. Once you've solved the puzzle, you already see how all the pieces fit. Not all puzzles are complex.

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When I'm trying to put thoughts together like this, they often take the form of big flowcharts.  It's easier to cognize it visually, because it's the words itself that can snag.  This is a little close to home, but this very subject is the kind I find difficult to convey properly.  The catch-22 of not being able to describe the thing that makes it difficult to describe things with.

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I have been guilty of using an analogy to explain another analogy. But sometimes I honestly can't explain things in the literal way because they don't register literally. It's like, what they are isn't what they are. 

I totally and sincerely understand what you mean.

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Wait, how is Vitamin C permanent? You absorb it and pass it through your body. 

Do you mean that it'll always be around, a part of Earth? Is Vitamin C Earth's AIDS? 

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Buttered Toast stated: source post

When I'm trying to put thoughts together like this, they often take the form of big flowcharts.

As long as you have the patience for it, charts can be great. 
 

It's easier to cognize it visually, because it's the words itself that can snag.  This is a little close to home, but this very subject is the kind I find difficult to convey properly.  The catch-22 of not being able to describe the thing that makes it difficult to describe things with.

The need to convey meaning is what lead me to go through a period of being obsessed with words. I still find myself looking through dictionary resources from time to time to find the word that's closer to what I mean than the word that's 4/5 the way there. 

...either that or I make up analogies, or mix a few of them together to get a different meaning across. The latter tends to not do well with rigid purists.  

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Turncoat stated: source post

Wait, how is Vitamin C permanent? You absorb it and pass it through your body. 

Do you mean that it'll always be around, a part of Earth? Is Vitamin C Earth's AIDS? 

AIDS makes your life temporary -> the permanence attached to AIDS is temporary(because the effect of AIDS is temporary life).
Its futile to drink orange juice, as its temporary.
So Vitamin C, which is contained in orange juice, is of the same permanence as (the effects of) AIDS, if you follow the redefinitions.

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"One of my favorite examples, from the author of "The Center Cannot Hold: My Journey Through Madness": "I think someone's infiltrated my copies of the cases. We've got to case the joint. I don't believe in joints, but they do hold your body together." - Elyn Saks. It displays how tripped up someone loosely associating can become when words or ideas have more than one meaning, a problem for myself that's lead to a lot of clarity edits and questions of what someone's meaning. It gets even worse once you start throwing in homemade neologisms. "

 

^ I love that stuff. Cute puns and Pooh Bear logic and Monty Python. MrO was probably the most glorious weirdo I've ever read. :D

 

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Vitamin C passes through you and you pass through AIDS (into death).

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