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Eek. That's a terrible way to learn a language.

Y'all are gonna hate me, but I prefer the old boring style.

Grammar drills. Verb conjugations on top of verb conjugations. Compare and contrast sessions. What's similar about the second language as it comapres to the first? What's different?

My french teachers started with er verbs, then re verbs, ir verbs and irregular verbs. We learned all the pronouns, conjugations, and also had picture books full of common nouns and short stories as our knowledge progressed. There was a heavy emphasis on speaking in our fsl clsses. My teachers would speak sentences and tell the class to repeat them at first (third grade.) By 7th grade (our 4th year of french classes) we were expected to answer questions in french.

Music vids are cute and fun, but should be seen as a supplement, not the lesson itself. Those things are often full of slang terms that could confuse a new speaker.

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This is kind of old so quality is not best 1977 song. Like this below video sounds better just doesn't have English lyrics.

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Welcome :D 

If you ever have questions don't be afraid to ask. 

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I think if you want to learn french the fun way would be to listen to songs with both translations. It shows spelling, it shows the pronunciation, it shows some context, and it goes to a rhythm. It gives a realistic translation in the context instead of word for word.  It does have a downside, it can be fast, it might be hard for beginners. I am someone who has know french all my life so I might not see the hardships. I just think this would be fun because learning a language can get confusing motivating and boring depending how it is taught. 

 

I put some for examples. 

There are some things I might translate slightly differently though it's all good and makes sense. 

Turncoat might like this one above ^. It needs to be played in Youtube. 

 

So I think this would be the fun way to learn french. I know a lot of songs won't put both lyrics. It might be hard to find decent songs that translate in both languages. I like that this has context and is not word for word. It might not be for you. I just think I would like to learn this way. 

 

 

 

 

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Lovely songs Astamiss. 

Old boring style is for the structure. But for fun and learning vocabulary, I would definitely go with the music. 

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I agree it can be confusing. 

Like the the first songs. 

Sens au cœur de la nuit l'onde d'espoir...

It would literally translate to "Feel in the heart of the night the wave of hope".  In the video it translates to "Feel in the middle of the night the wave of hope".

It might be confusing because the person will think "coeur" which means "heart" will mean "middle". It only means middle in this situation, it is referring to middle, core, heart of the night. In most sentences "coeur" just means "heart". It might sound funny if the person always says heart instead of middle. 

 

I can just imagine... I will show the equivalence...

"In the heart of the stairs".

"I set the bread in the heart of the table".

 

In the second song I would say "urge" is better than "wish". 
 

It shows a context translation instead of direct word for word translation which would probably confuse a new learner. It can also be confusing because in french sentences are often in different orders. It means words in the sentence can be rearranged. I did not see too much of that in these songs. 

 

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Wow, wasn't anticipating a whole thread on it. Thanks!

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Xena is still trying to get over the trauma of being shouted at with baguette verbs, ignore her guys :P

still terribly ugly language tho, i'd like a danish or portuguese tutorial or something

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Thanks :)

Lol I'd be a funny teacher!

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Sun child of the shadows wherein hope springs eternal. lol...but it's not really about hope...to me, it's about the Love of Life. 

What is there not to love about it? Barring physical illness...existence is gorgeous. ( for the most part, depends where you are and assholes in the midst ) 

The sun can burn with an unparalleled fury or the gentlest kiss of warmth to the brow. And the wind can destroy utterly or cool sensually the heat of exertion.

Hail on a hot summers day, doesn't crush the flowers...Avez confiance en vous

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