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Cricket stated: source post

A relationship where one officially has all the control all the time is known in some circles as TPE (Total Power Exchange). In TPE, what the alpha says is what happens - always.

I've never liked this model, it always has me questioning if the two of them are damaged from something in the past. The subs in them look so... passive, so controlled, at points even glassy eyed, but in a somewhat frightening to be able to relate to fashion I can see how that could be... comfortable. The quote unquote "alpha" in power however, how is that not a reflection of their insecurity if they need someone who always follows orders, someone who will never challenge them? They seem so much weaker to me than someone who can take that power for him/herself. 

I always question how those relationship agreements start for each couple in question. Some of them have one who wants to be dominated to that degree be that way in advance, but many of them require... convincing the person to give their power away. I've seen some sickening (yet psychologically interesting) speech come from people trying to start one of these, some of them not looking too different from how a pimp talks down to somebody. I've even had talks with people who began to fall into believing the shit they were saying, that they're less than a person, that they want and need this, that they don't know anything and need to rely on someone else to know what's best for them, desperately needing a debrief after they've been insulted by such a barrage to resume having a sense of self again much to their later disorientation. Their proneness to beating themselves up seems to be able to be steered by these people, and all they have to do are throw some new scripts into their mix. 
 

Everything that the sub does is in the interest of the alpha or the relationship. The alpha is responsible for the sub and ideally keeps the interest and well-being of the sub in mind when making decisions, though the end decision is always up to him/her.

So many of them don't give a shit about the sub beyond their uses, especially if they're the harem building subtype. Gorean philosophy goes into this rather blatantly. 

I saw someone in the furry community trying to build quite the harem this way, complete with his overly-edgy undead fursona, Catholic upbringing that gave him a reason to envy God and demand to be looked upon with the same level of awe, and these really... creepy eyes that are constantly sizing people up and finding openings to insult someone in a way they can be tricked into seeing as comforting.

So... fucking... narcy, it was hard to look at such a creature while simultaneously holding down my lunch. 
 

Sometimes these relationships will have written contracts defining terms that allow the sub to leave or establish boundaries for the alpha, which is kinda pointless since the the aplha can do what he/she wants and has the ability to over-ride the contract anyway. 

These contracts tend to be written more with what the dom can get away with more than what the sub can do for themselves, at least for the ones I've had the pleasure of looking over. It's like this "alpha" figure needs that in order to maintain control, to be able to be like "Stop this! This is breaking the contract!" from being too weak to handle it without it. 

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Turncoat stated: source post

 

Cricket stated: source post

A relationship where one officially has all the control all the time is known in some circles as TPE (Total Power Exchange). In TPE, what the alpha says is what happens - always.

I've never liked this model, it always has me questioning if the two of them are damaged from something in the past. The subs in them look so... passive, so controlled, at points even glassy eyed, but in a somewhat frightening to be able to relate to fashion I can see how that could be... comfortable. The quote unquote "alpha" in power however, how is that not a reflection of their insecurity if they need someone who always follows orders, someone who will never challenge them? They seem so much weaker to me than someone who can take that power for him/herself. 

I always question how those relationship agreements start for each couple in question. Some of them have one who wants to be dominated to that degree be that way in advance, but many of them require... convincing the person to give their power away. I've seen some sickening (yet psychologically interesting) speech come from people trying to start one of these, some of them not looking too different from how a pimp talks down to somebody. I've even had talks with people who began to fall into believing the shit they were saying, that they're less than a person, that they want and need this, that they don't know anything and need to rely on someone else to know what's best for them, desperately needing a debrief after they've been insulted by such a barrage to resume having a sense of self again much to their later disorientation. Their proneness to beating themselves up seems to be able to be steered by these people, and all they have to do are throw some new scripts into their mix. 
 

Everything that the sub does is in the interest of the alpha or the relationship. The alpha is responsible for the sub and ideally keeps the interest and well-being of the sub in mind when making decisions, though the end decision is always up to him/her.

So many of them don't give a shit about the sub beyond their uses, especially if they're the harem building subtype. Gorean philosophy goes into this rather blatantly. 

I saw someone in the furry community trying to build quite the harem this way, complete with his overly-edgy undead fursona, Catholic upbringing that gave him a reason to envy God and demand to be looked upon with the same level of awe, and these really... creepy eyes that are constantly sizing people up and finding openings to insult someone in a way they can be tricked into seeing as comforting.

So... fucking... narcy, it was hard to look at such a creature while simultaneously holding down my lunch. 
 

Sometimes these relationships will have written contracts defining terms that allow the sub to leave or establish boundaries for the alpha, which is kinda pointless since the the aplha can do what he/she wants and has the ability to over-ride the contract anyway. 

These contracts tend to be written more with what the dom can get away with more than what the sub can do for themselves, at least for the ones I've had the pleasure of looking over. It's like this "alpha" figure needs that in order to maintain control, to be able to be like "Stop this! This is breaking the contract!" from being too weak to handle it without it. 

 

I'm definitely not condoning TPE. It was just the closest thing I could think of to an "all the power all the time" sort of relationship. I did use the word "ideally" when discussing that the dom/alpha should consider the sub's interests and well-being.

I think it's obvious that the sub in these relationships isn't going to do much, if anything, when the contract isn't held to. Hence, pointless. The alpha usually has control of the finances from what I've seen, leaving the sub without any way of taking anything should they decide to bail making it all the less likely. 

Astamiss stated: source post

I can see that one partner might be more lenient towards dominant and the other towards submissive behavior.

I think that can apply to nearly every partnership. Even if both are dominant personalities, one is usually more so than the other.

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Xena stated: source post

Except for the suicide cases as targets, that guy sounds a lot like you.

Howso? 
 

Not sure if the religion is true in your case bc you've never stated it explicitly, but your ideological bent is not exactly atheist leftish.

I've found religion scary since I was five. When I'd first gone to school, I saw kids without a religious template in place who'd further down the line adopt highly religious views surprisingly quickly because of being in their highly formative years. This made me assume that religions, especially Christianity, were these scary brainwashing cults and I wanted nothing to do with them. I still have trouble getting myself to walk into churches. 
 

Your mod style screams napoleon/ god complex.

This should be good.

I've never had someone throw that claim at me before for anything, could you elaborate as to how this is the case?

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Sadism.

Xena stated: source post

You've been obsessed with  me  of all people.

I'm an obsessive person and you put on some really strange displays. I've had the same affliction related to other users here as well, and I'm not the only one who has followed your posts. 

For you specifically though, you draw a lot of ire out of people, while out of me you draw fascination over that phenomenon. You're just so good at being disliked, always armed with something even crazier to say next, being a target people can't ignore, much more than TK could ever hope to be. With time, I've seen that you were right about not being like TK, you're something... more. Every time I see that you've replied to a topic, it surprises me when I don't see room for it to offend someone, and it's uncommon to see someone who can accomplish this across multiple forums and see it as something outside of their own doing. 
 

Since shortly after I got here.

It didn't really pick up until the Alignment topic. Prior to that you were fun to poke at from time to time, but you were much less of a staple, not enough of you had been seen to really have a strong enough narrative attached to your name. 
 

I'm the most unassuming person you could meet.

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This is sarcasm, right? With you I am having trouble telling. Do I even have to debunk this portion? 
 

People who attack people like me have srs control issues.

Yes, make it about us, the numerous us that continues to grow through your efforts solely. 

So... what does any of this have to do with a Napoleonic God Complex? Am I misunderstanding the terms? 

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" wearing a collar in public and being leashed around from place to place"

I had a guy do that for me once. I made him dance for my girlfriend. That was fun  :D

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I can see that one partner might be more lenient towards dominant and the other towards submissive behavior.

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"Catholic upbringing that gave him a reason to envy God and demand to be looked upon with the same level of awe, and these really... creepy eyes that are constantly sizing people up and finding openings to insult someone in a way they can be tricked into seeing as comforting.

So... fucking... narcy, it was hard to look at such a creature while simultaneously holding down my lunch. "

 

lol k

Coming from you this is pretty funny.

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No, like, really. His upbringing did him no favors, his eyes were these intense near-manic looking things that practically never blinked, his means of insulting a person is really... something else, and he genuinely assumed that the world revolved around him, that everyone needed to respect him, and he'd only talk with those who would play into his self-absorbed narrative. 

This guy was really bizarre to deal with, and more bizarre than that was watching what he could do to the blatantly weak targets he'd go for. It's no coincidence that he picked Furry Culture to infiltrate as his hunting ground, as they are highly insecure people, usually with parenting problems in their past, with a high rate of suicidal ideation. 

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Xena stated: source post

"

Your mod style screams napoleon/ god complex.

This should be good.

I've never had someone throw that claim at me before for anything, could you elaborate as to how this is the case?"

 

You've been obsessed with  me  of all people. Since shortly after I got here.

 

Hellooo... Remember Selena Kyle before she fell out that window and hit her head?

I'm the most unassuming person you could meet.

People who attack people like me have srs control issues.

 

pouts

Posts: 3645
Sadism.

"

Your mod style screams napoleon/ god complex.

This should be good.

I've never had someone throw that claim at me before for anything, could you elaborate as to how this is the case?"

 

You've been obsessed with  me  of all people. Since shortly after I got here.

 

Hellooo... Remember Selena Kyle before she fell out that window and hit her head?

I'm the most unassuming person you could meet.

People who attack people like me have srs control issues.

 

pouts

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