WW3 stated: source post
TC already made a decision to not moderate earlier in the thread, but that still hasn't prevented you from sperging out. :(
dubious and not backed by any evidence
Edvard stated: source post
I agree with most of this, we see things in a similar way, but I worry about getting a fucking lawyer manual for this place and tying our hands with clauses. "I invoke the SC ACT chapter 5 clause 3 section C paragraph 2 line 4 / 10.8.2016" this is a headache in this chaos, and trolls are extremely inventive. They will always find new ways to bypass the clauses (like instead of "chain posting", posting random shit between every other post made by another user), and we will have to add to the clauses again and again. And when will we feel the need to do that? When the only one rule that matters gets broken:
ONLY ONE RULE: DO NOT RUIN THE USABILITY OF THIS SITE (SUCH AS SPAM, FLOODING OR ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES).
This alone is alright to me and leaves the least room for abuse from either side (troll side and "the sc law enforcement").
Edit: plus do you have any idea how much shit can an autist or a bot spread on the forum in 59mins59seconds? Also, this site's time stamps are retarded, we get seconds - minutes - hours - days etc. Timing an hour of spamming is impossible.
Then perhaps instead of time, it should be limited to 15 posts in one hour that are considered spam?
I like the lawyer manual thing :P
Turncoat stated: source post
ThenFuckit stated: source post
1. If a username spams a thread, or multiple threads, or makes many threads, or cross-spams for longer then an hour, then its an offense and refer to number 2.
1.1. A spam is considered anything thats off-topic or the majority of users have no interest in, while containing very little(the amount of new knowledge you would gain if you assume you know nothing that is said in the post must be less or equal to a sentance) information on its own and is not involved in a current debate on the forum. Or has been repeated before in the last 3 days
Seems like Xena crossed the line here, arguably.
It's also up for debate on "off-topic". Xena sees quite convinced that quite a lot is off-topic as opposed to natural tangents from only focusing on the OP.
If Xena passes on all checks(after/if this is approved), then ban her. Simple.
2. Any spam thread/post should be deleted, in addition to the following points:
2.2 If the username of the spammer is a puppet ban it.
When are they no longer a puppet, and should an established user have that much more power? Sounds like room for bias without fleshing this one out.
This is up to the judge. The only methodical way will take me way too long and too much effort to compile and it will probably be very long and have errors. But here is a more obvious one: If the user account was made ages ago and/or has normal posts and you do not know for a fact they are a puppet, then they are not a puppet. But if its a puppet everyone knows is a puppet, just ban it, even if it has normal posts and shit. Or if it was made just for spamming also ban it. Or if it was made ages ago and not used for a while till the spam started, ban it.
2.3 If the username of the spammer is a puppet and the main account is know, or its not a puppet and this is his/her 1st offense, warn the main account for a future ban.
Not all are that obvious, and they can always make another account (ie: Jim's mock-threats).
Well there is no way to fix this. If you do not know the puppet master, its impossible to do anything. Find out who the puppet master is.
2.4 If its a second offense ban the main account. If the main account is unknown, then ban the main account once its known, if this is his second offense, otherwise look at number 2.3.
I somehow see people being pissy after a two strikes policy. Favorites > Rules.
​If thats the policy, then make it a vote. I am against such democratic methods. But there is no other way if this is the policy(Favorites > Rules)
4. If a post contains child pornography directly(not linked) or contains links to such material with intent on simply sharing it, then its considered spam and refer to number 2.
Obvious enough for users to toy with it.
Thats why we need a judge. I see no other ways. Pedophilia should be discussed if so is wished and materials towards said discussion should not be censored.
5. If a post is made to somehow create illegal activities based in this forum, then its considered spam and refer to number 2.
Like what?
I duno, maybe someone is advertising their drug cartel or something. They are setting up an advertise on the forum for illegal activities.
See the bold in the quote^
WW3 stated: source post
This makes you no more useful than a computer program :P
If a program could do this, it would be perfect. But no AI is powerful enough to make correct judgments. And even if there was such an AI, it would take a lot of effort to program it from scratch. In which case the program would never do it for free or for this site alone and it would have a lot of customization. In other words, thats incorrect.
ThenFuckit stated: source post
I somehow see people being pissy after a two strikes policy. Favorites > Rules.
​If thats the policy, then make it a vote. I am against such democratic methods. But there is no other way if this is the policy(Favorites > Rules)
Now that i think more about it. perhaps make it 3 offenses and if there is no offense for 1 month, reduce the number by one. And bans should last for 3 months, since their last ban. So if they make a new acc while they are supposed to be baned and you find out on time, ban them and restart the 3 months. After the ban expires, they start with 0 offenses again.
You not having a good memory isn't our problem, try having pen and paper near you if its that important or use the back/forward buttons.
I'm saying biased against because Ww3 has said some purdy mean things at TC. I'm talking the same kind of biased Xena is against cad and the same kind of biased you seem to be whenever anyone says anything against Xena.
Nothings changed really, he was made mode for that particular reason: to ban dex, remove CP, and I can't remember too clearly but the dox was something we all as a forum agreed on. Again, removing the threads that ww3 made would just be for 'cosmetic' purposes as it doesn't seem to affect the usability and people are still able to post on other threads.
ThenFuckit stated: source post
Now that i think more about it. perhaps make it 3 offenses and if there is no offense for 1 month, reduce the number by one. And bans should last for 3 months, since their last ban. So if they make a new acc while they are supposed to be baned and you find out on time, ban them and restart the 3 months. After the ban expires, they start with 0 offenses again.
Please don't think more about it. This sounds like Nazi Germany, not SC XD
That after 7 shitposts we are talking about implementing this^ and all spam is allowed, I can only shake my head at this point.
It amazes me how talented this community is to find a small pimple in its ass and keep scratching and gnawing at it until it becomes a huge, bloody, pus-filled ulcer.
Buttered Toast stated: source post
Is this shit resolved yet?
All of this is more a deterrent than any fucking policy holes or potential fuck ups offer as a threat.
GET OVER IT AND FUCKING MOVE ON!
And where is the fun in that?
