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Daniella, you mustn't waste time on sox, and Freyja and shit.

If there were no man made laws, and we had to fend for ourselves, your proclaimed gut responses would be correct. But again, the environment would have to have no written and upheld rules or laws that are against killing your own species.

Even so you'd have to realize, your own tribe, or clan, or village what have you, would be very uneasy about what you've done, In that case killing your deceiver would still come at a price as you could be exiled or worse.

If killing your deceiver was possible to get away with, you'd best console in your tribe before punishment can commence.  They might still decide that the both of you should be destroyed.

Ultimately whatever you do will determine your intelligence. Some will fall and you can be just another one that does just that, over an impulse. Not even the most flexible "natures law" would reward stupidity.

Wow, lmao, what are those questions. This is even worse than the capital punishment debate. Ofc none of this should be legal. Most people can't even deal psychologically with having killed someone themselves, even if in that moment they felt they really wanted it.

Psychological attack...What is it with you and your obsessive fear of psychological attacks. The law protects people from physical attacks better, true, but that's because it's harder for people to guard themselves physically in some situations, while in the case of psychological trickery the victim is more responsible for what happens to them, since in most cases it can be avoided with inside/personal resources (don't kill people, think carefully before you fuck without a condom, etc).

Plus, yeah, a lot of mistakes could be made from people "thinking" they were tricked. No matter what you say later, in your original post you use words like "gut" and "anger", so your death sentence proposal leaves a lot of room for emotional mistakes. For your examples, there already are laws in place that punish the evildoers. There are plenty of reasons they don't involve the victims killing the evil doers themselves, other people in this thread already mentioned them.

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Haha, I thought you would take this very personally, and I was right. And therein lies your problem with manipulation. 

Look, when I am manipulating someone, I am not devaluing them as a person. I don't think any less of them for being manipulated, I don't think of them at all in fact. It's only about me and what I want, simple as that. 

Manipulation is not an assault. If I were to rape you or physically attack you then yeah, I can understand taking that personally. But manipulation is just basic human interaction. Without it we would not have strong leaders or have become the dominant species that we are. It is the reason humans evolved language complex enough to be talking about random hypothetical situations, rather than still grunting at each other round the fireside over the remains of a woolly mamouth. 

Manipulation is about giving someone a reason to do something that they want to do, not getting them to do something that they don't want to do. Short of hypnotising someone, there isn't a way to get someone who is against murder to go out and kill someone. For that, you would have to resort to blackmail or intimidation. If you have been manipulated into doing something, then even if the pretext was false, there was a part of you that wanted to do that thing.