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"( i just realized i typed this whole post while capitalizing things, why did I do that 0.o )"

Because you know, you can't act like an ass before me.

No.

"Why not?"

It would be petty for the law to suggest it's okay to kill someone because you were stupid and they tricked you.

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Like what ? Fooling someone into pointing a gun at someone and firing ?

"Manipulating someone into thinking an innocent man deserves death and using other advanced methods to coerce you."

It's faulty to accept things at face value. In any case the murder would have to be done in secret which is another red flag, doing it openly is also foolish. The manipulated will be guilty. Even in Satanism the only sin is being stupid.

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The law, that is, human law and not natures law. Will need to be convinced of the events leading to the speculated event. Without evidence, there is no "go ahead and kill them and everyone will know why". The set laws doesn't prevent crime, it seeks to uphold it by avenging. So no, killing him will only be troublesome as far as the law in concerned.

"Let's ignore the law and go with instinct. Are you sure that's what your gut would say?"

On the basis that I messed up and was fooled into killing someone ? That's some unexplored territory I doubt I'll ever have to confront in this lifetime. It's so dumb I'd probably be more angry with myself, but yes, I'd be incredibly irritated with my manipulator, and whatever I do it'll happen soon and last very long.  But damn, it's best not to be stupid to begin with, and the anger projected at them, should be aimed at the self for being a moron. I really have no gut reaction to the thought of this, nor can I begin to sympathize with someone who'd be fooled to do something like that, then place blame elsewhere. 

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The question goes beyond my imagination. First I would have to be really dumb to follow instructions that will lead to someone's death. Secondly, if I pushed a button or pulled a lever without knowing the outcome..... Seriously it's too dumb.

"I think you misunderstood the question. You were already manipulated. Don't say it's "too dumb". Place yourself in the hypothetical. Think about how you'd feel after being manipulated into doing something and being angry about it."

I'd probably have a panic attack, and the thought of the manipulator would potentially cause heart failure. I would have to breath and clear my head the best I can, then when I get it together, I'd go stab the fucker. At least, that's what would come to mind while I'm overwhelmed with how dunce I've been.

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There's man's law, and there's natures law. Natures law is virtually unlimited, where as man's laws are designed to keep the ruling class as they are, while the cattle remain cattle. Man's law cannot work if it never had any favors, and while a vast amount of us believe in death penalties, a law permitting deadly revenge will get out of hand real quick.

"That may be true, but this isn't about that. It's about how one feels about these things happening to them."

I've visited some pretty dark places in my lifetime. I've been deceived, and when people try to deceive me, I can spot it. And I mean seriously, there are people who never matured, and think their tricks and tactics can work, and they insist things to support the things they wish you to believe, without evidence.

Imagine watching someone learn the hard way, then they spiral out of control and start acting like an animal toward their aggressor. To be honest I don't know if I can convey to you how that looks to me, but it's something I avoid becoming. It's the way down.

Not trying to sound like an angel, but Instead of seeking satisfaction from enraged revenge, why not take responsibility for being deceived ? It's possible to do I assure you. It's when we do that, the imperfections and the errors become valuable to our grander self, and we even feel better, instead of carrying the torment for the rest of our lives. When it's all better, you can strangle them to death if you want to. You'll have to do something about them, it's too much trouble.

What have you gotten yourself into for you to ask these questions ?

No.

Why not?

Like what ? Fooling someone into pointing a gun at someone and firing ?

Manipulating someone into thinking an innocent man deserves death and using other advanced methods to coerce you.

The law, that is, human law and not natures law. Will need to be convinced of the events leading to the speculated event. Without evidence, there is no "go ahead and kill them and everyone will know why". The set laws doesn't prevent crime, it seeks to uphold it by avenging. So no, killing him will only be troublesome as far as the law in concerned.

Let's ignore the law and go with instinct. Are you sure that's what your gut would say?

The question goes beyond my imagination. First I would have to be really dumb to follow instructions that will lead to someone's death. Secondly, if I pushed a button or pulled a lever without knowing the outcome..... Seriously it's too dumb.

I think you misunderstood the question. You were already manipulated. Don't say it's "too dumb". Place yourself in the hypothetical. Think about how you'd feel after being manipulated into doing something and being angry about it.

There's man's law, and there's natures law. Natures law is virtually unlimited, where as man's laws are designed to keep the ruling class as they are, while the cattle remain cattle. Man's law cannot work if it never had any favors, and while a vast amount of us believe in death penalties, a law permitting deadly revenge will get out of hand real quick.

That may be true, but this isn't about that. It's about how one feels about these things happening to them.

This is just your opinion, the first thing that comes to your mind, not flawless logic. My gut immediately says yes to all these questions

Well since you asked my immediate gut feeling is that all of these ideas are retarded. The first thing is being an accessory to murder, or something like that, I'm pretty sure that's already illegal. The second one isn't fucking worth killing someone over. As for the third one, I've visualized pinning people to the wall and choking the shit out of them but I've never been mad enough to kill them, I mostly just want to inflict pain on them. 

I think you're just mad about some retard manipulating you.

( i just realized i typed this whole post while capitalizing things, why did I do that 0.o )

No, to all of those. For the same reasons Trypt pointed out, just seems like it'd spur countless cycles of violence.

I've killed people for less.

"Do you think it should be legal to kill someone that tricks you into doing something?"

No, because people make erroneous judgments and act upon them. For example, say a woman thought she got HIV from a man, and retaliated in a way she thought was in accordance with the law. Then you have a dead innocent man, a woman with a probably lengthy prison sentence, and possibly a guy still running around infecting people. One of the reasons civilized nations use police and courts for the enforcement of justice is that the passions can render a person irrational, and cause them to seek retribution in mistaken ways.

Do I sympathize with a woman who kills a man whom knowingly transmitted HIV to her without her awareness? Yes. Should the courts take her situation into consideration? Yes. Do I think her actions should be legal? No.

No, because people make erroneous judgments and act upon them. For example, say a woman thought she got HIV from a man, and retaliated in a way she thought was in accordance with the law. Then you have a dead innocent man, a woman with a probably lengthy prison sentence, and possibly a guy still running around infecting people. One of the reasons civilized nations use police and courts for the enforcement of justice is that the passions can render a person irrational, and cause them to seek retribution in mistaken ways.

The question wasn't if a woman THOUGHT she got HIV, it was if she DID get HIV. Stay true to the hypothetical. 

Do I sympathize with a woman who kills a man whom knowingly transmitted HIV to her without her awareness? Yes. Should the courts take her situation into consideration? Yes. Do I think her actions should be legal? No.

Why not? To the last question. If the court takes her situation into consideration and decides she isn't in the wrong, would you think her actions should be legal then?