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Fighting The Tide (a useful start)

on 2/27/2015
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People spend their whole lives dependant on others.

We seek to exert control over the uncontrollable,

We admire the shapers!

The formers!

The conquerors!

Who are able to bend their surroundings to their will. 

 

This is the primal human nature to want to exert our will over others.

This is the most basic manifestation of yourself and the farthest away from your true self, only hints of what you truly are and desire and be derived from it. 

 

But we fail to look where these desires come from, we see only their murky manifestation of them. Yet we follow them blindly, fighting against the tide, fighting to form what we do not exert control over to be what we (thing we) want it to be.

 

This control and power is empty, for it is not true growth.

It offers you nothing while at the same time putting you in a situation of a addict. Always chasing the dragon, chasing the shadowy ideal you do not understand but you somehow feel "if I could just try a little harder".  

 

Being dependant on something you do not control (yourself is the only thing you can hope to control fully) puts you at the mercy of the world.

on 2/27/2015
Posts: 42
Fighting The Tide (a useful start)

Nope

If so, we wouldnt use computers

 

on 2/27/2015
Posts: 97
Fighting The Tide (a useful start)
We are more advanced than computers
on 2/27/2015
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Fighting The Tide (a useful start)

What do you mean when you say that a person can hope to control themselves fully?

on 2/27/2015
Posts: 42
Fighting The Tide (a useful start)

We are more advanced than computers dog

on 2/27/2015
Posts: 97
Fighting The Tide (a useful start)

Why is there all this tripe about what a person 'truly is'?

We are nothing more than biological computers; we should not try to assign any greater meaning to ourselves than was ever there in the first place...

on 2/27/2015
Posts: 97
Fighting The Tide (a useful start)

Is this some kind of religious / spiritual shit?

If so, I'm not continuing this conversation.

on 2/27/2015
Posts: 97
Fighting The Tide (a useful start)

Semantically, one rich source of jargon constructions is the hackish tendency to anthropomorphize hardware and software. English purists and academic computer scientists frequently look down on others for anthropomorphizing hardware and software, considering this sort of behavior to be characteristic of naive misunderstanding. But most hackers anthropomorphize freely, frequently describing program behavior in terms of wants and desires.

Almost all hackers subscribe to the mechanistic, materialistic ontology of science (this is in practice true even of most of the minority with contrary religious theories). In this view, people are biological machines — consciousness is an interesting and valuable epiphenomenon, but mind is implemented in machinery which is not fundamentally different in information-processing capacity from computers.

Hackers tend to take this a step further and argue that the difference between a substrate of CHON atoms and water and a substrate of silicon and metal is a relatively unimportant one; what matters, what makes a thing ‘alive’, is information and richness of pattern. This is animism from the flip side; it implies that humans and computers and dolphins and rocks are all machines exhibiting a continuum of modes of ‘consciousness’ according to their information-processing capacity.

Because hackers accept that a human machine can have intentions, it is therefore easy for them to ascribe consciousness and intention to other complex patterned systems such as computers. If consciousness is mechanical, it is neither more or less absurd to say that “The program wants to go into an infinite loop” than it is to say that “I want to go eat some chocolate” — and even defensible to say that “The stone, once dropped, wants to move towards the center of the earth”.



- from jargon.txt v4.4.7

on 2/27/2015
Posts: 42
Fighting The Tide (a useful start)

Get off hackers balls

Concentrate on how it works versus evaluating what it looks like

 

on 2/27/2015
Posts: 42
Fighting The Tide (a useful start)

No religion here

Look at stem cells....embryonic stem cells

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