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by Turncoat

Why is the seat worth the effort?

Why should I move when he could easily find another seat?

"You're assuming he'd win the fight."
I'm assuming the potential is there and likely tilting in his favor if done fairly.

If done fairly? 

Who gives a fuck what's fair when it comes to fighting.

I have no problem fighting dirty if it helps me win the fight.

"The guy in the scenario is 'huge', which could just mean fat. He could be a fat dude that doesn't know how to fight well."
He's comfortable with making threats, so I doubt he's a McDonalds Lifeliner.

Because fat dudes never threaten people? Are you kidding me.

Some fat dudes will have no problem threatening anyone if they're cocky enough.

"Considering I've had martial arts training, my chances against him could be pretty good."
If that's true, then you should understand how even in victory you stand to lose something. Martial arts isn't a toy, and even someone without training can pack a wallop.

Yes, someone without training can pack a wallop, but he has to be able to hit what he's aiming at.

Being slimmer and fitter than him, I'd be quick to dodge and more agile on my feet than him.

"There's nothing in the scenario that mentions she did, so why assume it?"
There's nothing there suggesting she didn't, and even if she didn't there's nothing to say she'd not side with him if you presented opposition. There's too many variables left unknown, and jumping into a scenario with them filled out on your own based on mere impression is begging for problems. Witnesses could be made out to see you as the bad guy.

Who cares. It's just a fucking scenario.

You have such a pessimistic view. It's like you always expect the worst to happen.

I prefer to look at the outcome that is more positive because that's what I'm aiming for. A negative outcome is always possible, of course, but it's pointless worrying about it when it may not even happen that way.

There's no reason to take that chance. What you stand to gain could be accomplished without all the hassle and potential backfire chances.

 You assume so much.

Whose to say there would even be any hassle.

What if he's the one who backs off after he realizes that he can't just push me aside and take my seat.

He may not even start any fight.

Either way, I'm not giving up my fucking seat just because some other dude wants it.

by Turncoat

"Why should I move when he could easily find another seat?"
To answer this would be me repeating myself.

And yet, you still can't see why he shouldn't just find another seat to sit on.

"Being slimmer and fitter than him, I'd be quick to dodge and more agile on my feet than him."
You only need to be hit once to potentially lose something, and you're still throwing yourself into multiple potential liability risks.

I'm not afraid of losing something in a fight. I'm prepared to take that risk.

Reckless optimism is the path to an early grave and plenty of bills.

Being reckless can be fun.

In the meantime, you're stuck worrying over all the potential negative outcomes. How is that any better?

preparation is a way to avoid worry, not giving into it.

The difference between you and I is that I don't spend my time worrying over the potential negative consequences of my actions.

Those negative consequences may never happen, so why worry about them, and if they do, then so be it.

"He may not even start any fight."
Again, it only takes one good hit to have something you carry with you for the rest of your life, and based on his display towards the chick in question it's suggested that he has some comfort in that instance with hostility.

You come across as such a coward, I swear.

Who gives a fuck if he's violent. I can be just as violent.

As long as you don't mind liability risks and potential bills.

I won't be starting the fight.

If he starts it by throwing the first punch, then I can plead self defense if anyone were to get the police involved, and I'll have plenty of witnesses to back me up.

"And yet, you still can't see why he shouldn't just find another seat to sit on."
It's irrelevant, I'm thinking about me.

"I'm not afraid of losing something in a fight. I'm prepared to take that risk."
You also don't think ahead.

"In the meantime, you're stuck worrying over all the potential negative outcomes. How is that any better?"
You say "worry", I say "plan". I'm not fretting and constantly looking over my shoulder for the day some dude's going to hit me, I'm planning how I'd go about it if that scenario ever occurs in a fashion that's sensible. Once planned it can be stored for future use and not need to be thought on more beyond elaboration or covering other possibilities.

I've been in fights, and they've each ended quickly from having a plan.

"Those negative consequences may never happen, so why worry about them, and if they do, then so be it."
More like and when they do you enter a typical victim mentality. All it takes is some forethought, it's not too difficult. Even children can do it.

For me, I'd rather not play. I see no reason to.

"You come across as such a coward, I swear."
Based on what, not fighting someone over nothing, and recognizing the long list of potential costs that follow? As I have stated multiple times, even winning has costs. Age 18 isn't exactly the riches time in someone's life, and while pain is no problem, permanent injury is.

If I broke a hand or two that'd affect future work and conveniences/entertainment I often take for granted. If I bust my jaw that'll affect my skill with speech. If I lose teeth I won't be as visibly attractive, crippling my chances of seeking others. If I had to repair anything that'd set me back that much further, maybe in Mr. 18's case prevent being able to pay for a college education. Breaking a foot or leg means not being able to move as well even if it mends properly. A broken rib is a bitch to deal with as well, the list goes on and it only takes a single hit to get to that point. Even beyond injury risk, I'm not a fan of being banned from attending places, and I'd rather when the blame game comes along that I look like the good guy.

"Who gives a fuck if he's violent. I can be just as violent."
It's violence just for the sake of it though. There's no real reason to bother. It's better to fight when there's a real reason attached to it, otherwise you're likely to acquire injuries that will make those real reasons harder to defend.

I guess it's like we're speaking two different languages though, you don't really have aspirations beyond adrenaline rushes. I care about functioning and not crippling future successes.

by Turncoat

"You come across as such a coward, I swear."
Based on what

The fact that you would move from your own seat just so some other dude could sit there, when he could just as easily sit somewhere else.

You're a fucking pushover. A doormat.

"Who gives a fuck if he's violent. I can be just as violent."
It's violence just for the sake of it though. There's no real reason to bother. It's better to fight when there's a real reason attached to it, otherwise you're likely to acquire injuries that will make those real reasons harder to defend.

If he were to start the fight, you can bet your ass I'm gonna fight back.

If he doesn't throw the first punch, then there wouldn't be any fight because I'm certainly not going to start it in a public place.

Starting a physical fight wouldn't benefit me at all.

"The fact that you would move from your own seat just so some other dude could sit there, when he could just as easily sit somewhere else."
That memory of yours I swear. Might want to lay off the "candy" for a little bit and try this discussion again~

"You're a fucking pushover. A doormat."
You sound angry over my pointing out your willingness to make poor choices and keep your sights small. It's fine, you're okay with living a life with little to show for it. I'm still young and aim to keep myself functioning properly so that my chances of success remain higher than otherwise. I don't need my old age to be me dealing with old wounds I could have just as easily avoided, while something actually worth defending might make that cost feel more nostalgic.

This will likely lead to you being like "You don't know me or the things I've accomplished, I'm 40", which will have me ask "So what have you accomplished?". You'll then say it's pointless to list your achievements and not list them, so before that chain re-occurs I'm just going to bank with you having not achieved anything. You set your sights small so you can feel like you've earned something, so it's no mystery why you'd rush head first into a fight and not care what you have to lose, as what are you really losing?

For myself meanwhile, I see that I'd stand to lose much, even as a winner.

"If he were to start the fight, you can bet your ass I'm gonna fight back."
Letting him start the fight means opening yourself up to be hit first. Getting out of your chair expands your options. I know this way of thinking is alien in nature by your understanding and you assume only a coward would do it, but that doesn't mean it's not the smarter choice. I listed tons of reasons why, while all you have to hold onto is pride.

There's better things to hold your ground for than seat warmth and potential pussy.

Id sip my free shot thoughtfully and sit in said seat until the guy either made a move  or said something. For all you know he may have moved her head because she has some horrendous communicable disease and he was actually doing you a favor. The filthy look could simply be because he cant fathom that you dont know she is bad news lol

You are fucking pathetic.  Ha.

by TheSocio

 

by wilful

You are an eighteen year old man with no criminal record inside a busy bar/nightclub.

I really don't see how criminal record is relevant. I think you revealed more about you than anything else by stating that, but I get the scenario. Also, apparently my lack of criminal record caused me no problems in obtaining a fake I.D. to get into this bar or nightclub and drink (usa ofc).

If you worried about that part at all, then it served its purpose...

 

 You struggled years to bottle your true spirit from surfacing.

True spirit?

Just setting a scene...stop reading into it

 

 A beautiful woman sits at the bar and buys you a shot.  She leans over touching her cheek to yours and whispers something when a huge guy moves her face away with his hand calling her a bitch.  He looks at you to say, "get the fuck out of my seat."

How do you handle it?

 You never stated whether or not that is actually his woman or not. I'd look around to see if there are other seats open, particularly two seats together (since she leaned over to me implies that she's standing) and if there is I'll look at him, take my shot, smile, and we'll move over there. If there are no seats open, and I had been in that seat for awhile so it's clearly not his to take I'll stand my ground...sit my ground?

 

If it is his woman then I don't give a shit. I don't know her and she's not my problem, I'd take my shot regardless since it was a kind gift.

You mention he's 'huge' but don't clarify in what way. Built? Fat? Large mens weakness is there knees usually, so, if he wants to get physical i'll drop a a heavy foot into the side of it and go about my business. I won't throw the first punch if I want to enjoy the rest of my night where I am.

If you get the scenario, why interpret...it is designed to fall outward from your inside

 

by wilful

 imagine you heard the woman's whispers:  what did she whisper?

 "Kevin Spacey is my hero"

Hey Lycan. What did she whisper?

how about

"dude

get ur hideous smelly whore and ur self out of here

im not here to score any diseased pussy tonight or play ur stupid fucking games

not gonna move from this fucking seat either so just beat it fatso

take ur trash with u" nodding at the ho