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How is a personality disorder any more than just a label that mental health professionals have given us? I would assume everyone in this world would fall under one of the many personality Disorders out there.

When I started researching different personality disorders including ASPD. I realized a lot of the people I have known could fall under the anti-social disorder. Now when you start branching off into psychopaths. That is when you realize there are not nearly as many that fit that profile. A psychopath when compared to a sociopath in my opinion is a night and day difference in personality and lifestyle. 

I think everyone has sociopathic traits to some degree.  Some more than others. As a sociopath ages they learn to adapt to being a sociopath and will show less traits than what they had in there younger years. Almost to the point of not being considered antisocial in a therapist standpoint. 

Now a psychopath is a whole new ballgame. I think even into there years it would remain noticeably similar to that of there younger years. I have reed that psychopaths were born this way and sociopaths were created in there preteens.  So do you think psychopaths are genetically passed down from there parents or possibly skipping a few generations before showing itself again?

I think a sociopath are only as sociopathic as they portray themselves to be. If you choose to be that sociopath that goes out and murders people because of the fact you can. Then I don't think you are any different than anyone else who commits murder.

I would like your input on my theories. I am open to anything I may be overlooking. 

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Labeling kids is a dangerous angle because of the tactics that are used in this stage of understanding. People should be taught to learn to live with their disorders, how to function within that framework, not how to throw a bandage at it or "Live the Label".

So much damage occurs when kids are made to believe that the only problems worth addressing are those with one step solutions, and the current model of "fixing" children pretty much indoctrinates that idea (lets not even start on how much meds can make an issue exponentially worse, both through chemical rewiring and not having to learn how to function without it, let alone the strangely easily overlooked problem of becoming strung out junkies with developmental problems).

Labels aren't dangerous, I think they are entirely necessary for the path of learning to understand yourself and recognizing what problems you may be blind sighting, what problems constantly present hurdles that others with the same label have overcome themselves, what hurdles you may not even see as a problem yet constantly find yourself asking "why things are so difficult", or further yet, projecting and assuming that must be how everyone is. Labels offer a means of understanding that variety exists, and as such I appreciate them for what they are. Of course, labels would also be healthier if people would see them as possibilities and not as definite answers, not using it to circumvent learning, as at the very least it'd inspire them to look into other possible answers that may be more fitting.

The problem simply lies in what people do with that knowledge, the scare tactics employed either out of misunderstanding or nudging from "Big Pharma".

Edit: There's also that people commonly overlook it being more like a spectrum with ranges and different variations of trait potencies, instead seeing the labels and assuming they're walking extensions of the definitions.

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"How is a personality disorder any more than just a label that mental health professionals have given us?"

Being a disorder of any kind, it constitutes a cluster of traits or qualities that present difficulty into the person's life. If you look for the mere existence of such traits you're likely to see (or imagine/project) them onto a wide variety of people, but it falls under "disorderly" territory when such traits make for a lack of order through excess displays of it, both how often and how strongly. Sure a person for example could have a reduced emotional capacity, but that doesn't mean that they full-blown qualify as "shallow emotions", just like how a person with wild mood swings isn't necessarily Bipolar or Histrionic or someone who's sad often isn't necessarily a victim of Depression or someone twitchy and prone to boredom doesn't necessarily have ADD/ADHD.

As my old Abnormal Psyche professor said more than once: "If it's not causing difficulty in their lives or the lives of others, is it really a disorder?". He also taught Psychology of Addiction where he applied the same model on the perception of addiction. Labeling bits on themselves when it doesn't cause strife in their lives (or others) is largely decadent, if not at points looking for ammo to excuse and enable their own behaviors: "I can't help it, I'm an alcoholic."

On another note, how is a Psychopath different from someone with ASPD exactly?

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I totally agree with the message the video is giving. Perception of ones self is more powerful than any label. 

Just because you are a (for example) sociopath. Doesn't  meen you have to act or live the life of a sociopath.  To many people are being labled or are labling themselves.  If you have a disorder, you can choose to be that disorder or you can use that knowledge to help better yourself. 

Children should never be told they are a disorder, and in a sense. That is just as powerful as a name. Now when that child fails at something they will mentally throw there hands up and say. I can't do this because I have a disorder. 

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by Creedmoor

Just because you are a (for example) sociopath. Doesn't  meen you have to act or live the life of a sociopath.  To many people are being labled or are labling themselves.  If you have a disorder, you can choose to be that disorder or you can use that knowledge to help better yourself.

And you honestly think a sociopath, who knows they are one, is just gonna go, "There's something wrong with me. I should really look at how I can become a better person"? lol

It doesn't work that way. Most, if not all, sociopaths do not see anything wrong with themselves, even though they may be aware that they have negative traits.

For example; in my mind, it's not me that's fucked up. It's the rest of the world. They're just a bunch of fucking sheep.

When you're a sociopath, acting like one is not really a choice. Well, it is, but it's not a 'planned' choice so to speak. You don't plan to act like a sociopath. You act that way because your mind, your personality traits, affect how you behave.

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Sry my Tablet isn't letting me link or show you the stuff I wanted to. When I get home. I will answer your question. 

 

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"But what if a doctor give you pills for depression just because u are introverted?"

Like I said, it's not the labels that are at fault, it's what people do with them that is. Doctors are still people, Psychology is a speculative science, that's already two margins of error right there before even looking at the individuals themselves. Despite this, people still assume that just because the words came from "A Doctor" that they must be right instead of questioning the findings, seeking out second opinions, and actually exercising some damn Introspection.

If they didn't act like everything needed a cure, simply reserving it for the really extreme cases, and instead worked on how to have them cope with existing in that way, how to function existing in that way, finding the wrong label would only become as much of a problem as how much that individual takes it seriously. "Living the Label" is not a universal danger, people just need to see that they aren't the label, that instead the label is a part of them.

Labels can also denote styles of learning, both where they'll excel and possibly find difficulty. Being aware of labels can help with creating specific work-arounds so that they still thrive instead of wither from not learning things the way others do.

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"Like I said, it's not the labels that are at fault, it's what people do with them that is."

I agree with you on this 100% as far as adults go that is.

 

 

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