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Myers Briggs

You reconstruct what you've read, but what you read is the same as what the psychologists read. Doesn't mean hardly any of it is true, though.

I needed to manipulate my mother. It's a very long story, but that's the basis of it.

I had to go off them though because I leaked milk outta my boobies >.>

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Myers Briggs

Experienced yourself? Wait, I thought you said you faked it >.> confused.

 

"I don't claim that it is possible to entirely understand another person's frame of mind. I simply hold the hypothesis that it is possible to frame well other states of mind."

Glad we're on the same page, then ;3 'tis almost upsetting seeing some psychologists think they get that 360 view. 

I always find it such a good quality in a person if they can acknowledge their lack of knowledge in areas like that ;3

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by Phoelyss

You reconstruct what you've read, but what you read is the same as what the psychologists read. Doesn't mean hardly any of it is true, though.

It's not just what I've read, it's what I've experienced, studied myself, and seen first hand.

But, again understanding is a matter of degrees. If a human mind's complexity is represented as the 360 degrees of a circle, does being able to cognitively reconstruct that entire angle constitute "understanding" a person? Do I understand a person if I get "180 degrees" of them, and I know half of everything they think, and half of why everything they do? If I am at "259 degrees" of understanding a person, do I really get them if I am one degree off?

Of course it would be impossible to comprehend all "360 degrees" of a persons's mind unless you've personally experienced their whole life. But I would never claim anyone needs to to comprehend anyone eles's mind entirely to understand them. That would not only be absurd; it would be impossible.

I don't claim that it is possible to entirely understand another person's frame of mind. I simply hold the hypothesis that it is possible to frame well other states of mind.

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Myers Briggs

You've been arguing for 3 days now. That's jumping up & down in my view.

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Myers Briggs

B-but I've been sitting right here the whole time.. :'(

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Myers Briggs

Hayasa, if I am understanding you correctly, you believe that psychopaths are incapable of "love," because love by definition involves being "other-centered" (can't remember the exact word you used right now)?

And Phoelyss, you believe that psychopaths can feel love, because "love" is subjective to the person who experiences it?

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Myers Briggs

I was just fucking with you. You you said you thought psychopaths being unable to feel love is more assumption than fact, and then like three pages in the thread later you said that all you know is that psychopaths can't form emotional attachments.

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by Phoelyss

Hardly, in actuality. The attitude behaviour link is bidirectional, and also more often way more influenced by environment over emotions.

While behavior is indeed a function of input, its "output" is also a function of the internal state, which always involves an emotional aspect.

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Myers Briggs

i'm pretty sure this chick had some sort of aintish setup too..only aint didn't claim to be lacking empathy from what i remember which is nothing.

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by Tryptamine

you said you thought psychopaths being unable to feel love is more assumption than fact, and then like three pages in the thread later you said that all you know is that psychopaths can't form emotional attachments.

Yeah, that's because I wasn't thinking about love being a form of emotional attachment back then. It was only later that I came to that conclusion and realized that's why psychopaths are devoid of love.

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