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Ebola

"Your own bias discredits you, it reveals your sole intent within this serious topic of discussion."

Pot calling the kettle black?

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Ebola

 

by Spatial Mind
by Gypsy

Seeing as I'm pretty sure you just post this stuff to wind ppl up, or to start fights by accusing ppl of making personal attacks on you if they disagree with you about anything, I should really have the willpower to resist responding to this. However, seeing as I'll never get the 5 mins of my life back after watching that vid...

Your own bias discredits you, it reveals your sole intent within this serious topic of discussion.

 

My sole intent being...?

 

 

"Correct. Ebola is created....

No.

and patented......

Sort of.

Sort of ? It is or it isn't.

It is made and patented, ONLY an invention can be patented. In the case of a Virus, it can only be patented if the beholder was the first to claim isolating and modify it.

 

In the United States you can patent life forms, including viruses, almost anything except humans. Being the first to 'isolate the virus from its natural environment', this is not the same as creating it, just getting it back to a lab to study it. It would actually be very difficult to create a virus entirely from scratch. Again, patented does not = created.

 

 

and owned by...... the US Government. (CDC).......

No.

Leave it to you to be in denial.

 

Does asking for proof equate being in denial? You've made a claim, now it's up to you to prove it.

 

 

The US government patented the Bundibugyo strain of the Ebolavirus in 2010 (not the Zaire strain which causes the current outbreak).

The Bundibugyo district is just east of Zaire, and Zaire is the former name for what is now the Republic of Congo. So for your information, It is the same place as nature does not see the borderlines on our maps.

The title Zaire strain was the first "reported" Ebola outbreak back in 1976. It is the same virus, and the patent states all that is related to the virus is inclusive.

 

Oh my god. Thanks for the geography lesson, but I know the modern name for Zaire... Is it inconceivable to you that two strains of the same virus could be discovered in the same country? After you just said that nature doesn't respect our borders? After they called the first one the 'Zaire strain', what were they supposed to call the second one? Zaire Strain #2? This is a question of semantics. 

 

They did this so a commercial company can't patent it and then charge big fees for researchers to work with it.

The US is run by cold business. They will kill for gain, like they do. They would rather assimilate practices and sue those who achieve a solution. It doesn't hurt them if people are discouraged from doing this either.

To monopolize something like Ebola is a sick thing to do, and anyone smart enough to treat Ebola would know it's best for them and the rest to make the solution affordable for all.

 

Hmm, affordable Ebola. Anyone being able to work with Ebola. The North Koreans and al-Quaeda buying their own Ebola. I'm usually more of a libertarian persuasion, thinking government is a bad idea, but I'm not sure if I'm comfortable to go that far...

As for the first part of your statement, isn't that just human nature? Don't all governments and businesses do that?

 

I'm not sure how much it enables them to restrict who works with it, but would you rather the US government held the patent, or the government of Pakistan?

It doesn't restrict others from working on it or even selling it. What it does is give them the power to take their money by law in the event they do this, and claim royalty if they continue, so in effect it's discouraging, lest the worker strives for reasons others than money.

 

Drug companies don't make a profit from working with Ebola. They don't even make a profit from working with really widespread diseases like malaria. More money goes into the research of male pattern baldness than it does to malaria, which is a disease of mainly poor people which is expensive to work with to look for a cure or vaccine. Same with Ebola.

This is one area where if the market is left to its own devices it won't function in the best way for humanity because the profit incentive isn't there, so the government has to step in.

 

The claim on the video that the US government must have created it because the word created collocates with the word patent is one of the most retarded leaps of logic I've seen in some time. Of course you can patent something which you didn't personally invent. And patent doesn't necessarily equate with ownership either.

The patent includes 5 inventors. Jonathan S. Towner, Stuart T. Nichol, James A. Comer, Thomas G. Ksiazek, and Pierre E. Rollin.

 

Again, the scientists who isolated and work with the virus.

 

"It is called medical martial law, but it's actually going to be martial
law. The military will be employed to patrol the nation, when the people
are told to stay inside their home, they will have to comply or else
they will be facing detention. They will also have to be vaccinated by
law, and by force if need be."

Fuck them. Preparing for an emergency like that, trying to protect people and keep them safe. Damn them to hell~

They have been preparing for this. With ammo, guillotines, prison camps, and a vast number of disposable coffins, and the NDAA has been signed.  All you have to do is look under FEMA and it's right there.

We're living in a time where the masses are trading freedom for safety.

It's also interesting to note how Ebola has been ongoing for awhile, and how just last July the CDC started doing testing with it, then for the first time we're being fed news about an epidemic and how it's in the US and spreading worldwide for the first time.

 

So there is a massive epidemic, and when it threatens to turn into a pandemic, you are suspicious of the fact that they step up their research of it? Isn't that what they're supposed to be doing?

 

"When we are too many, it's gets tedious to maintain power while we get
smarter and increasingly aware. Depopulation must take effect in order
to follow through with the plans they have in store for the world."

Don't you think they would have chosen something a bit more contagious than Ebola? Like, you know, pneumonic plague or Spanish flu? Seems like a very inefficient attempt at population control.

Who knows. Airborne viruses are too loose, they probably wanted something they can control and inflict in a way that's more manageable.

 You mean, like targetted assassinations? Wow, that old Liberian man, two Texas nurses and the doctor from New York must have been a real danger to society...

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