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Jim's certificate (aka Daddy)

I don't know. Don't they say that about Narcissists? That they are actually insecure and don't care about anyone's pain but their own?

I am asking, not telling.

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Haha i think you're onto something there, Poison. His Master's Voice 

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Jim's certificate (aka Daddy)

People who don't lack conscience are insecure? How do you figure that? Maybe this is true for some but not all. There is nothing "fun" about lacking conscience but there are sides both beneficial and not to having this be true.

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Yes but I think what maria was trying to say (I'm guessing here) is that Narcs don't care about anyone's pain except their own. I disagree. That would imply narcissists have no empathy towards another. 

I meant a narc would take someone's pain and wallowing and try to loop it back to all about them rather than just comfort the person with a similar event they lived through to try and help the person. Who knows. Being a narcissist doesn't mean they have to be lacking conscience and not caring about anyone else completely.

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I always considered empathy the ability to relate to the feelings of others. While a person may not actually feel sad due the sadness, of someone else but they may be able to understand how that person feels due to the same or similar experiences.

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I wonder what is understanding a person's feelings and even relating, but not feeling the intrusion of their feelings or sympathy for them.
Er, I guess that's just relating?

 

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I've known some empathic types to complain about others feelings being almost "noisy", where they couldn't shut it out. I see that different from relating because, when I compare their experiences to my own, it's not forced.

If someone is next to me crying their eyes out, I don't feel sad, I feel awkward. An empath would share their feelings.

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I figured empathy was closer to the forced intrusion of others feelings, at least based on their complaints about it. Someone can relate to one's experiences as a form of sympathy, thereby not letting it affect them through going from pitying them instead.

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Jim's certificate (aka Daddy)

"I do think they are capable of relating to others pain, though they will most likely find away to loop it back to themselves and their own experiences."

Non-narcs kind of do the same thing, don't they? It's what makes relatability a thing.

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sounds like he just wants a mommy. heartbreaking really

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