"You pay for this shithole, which leaves a black mark on your portfolio"
I think she removed it from there didn't she?
"seeing as Nabble never took the old forum down and you haven't improved on it in any way."
She turned off the ability to post new topics, that's improving it right?
Jack Splat: "right now its like putting human toilet on your resume except youre apping for a real job"
Originally we were sort of like beta testers for her software development, but somehow that changed. She could arguably have a template up and keep the beta testing portion of it as a M.E. offshoot.
Bobby Elvis: "To your first point, I agree completely, but the degree of asshattery here is on a whole other level."
Forced politeness would make the place seem fake, wouldn't it? The freedom to be an asshat doesn't mean that everyone will reflect those traits, and the freedom ought to not be ripped away just because of some squeaky wheels. The ability to be a jerk but not bother to shows more than a place where everyone has no choice but to behave in one fashion.
by TurncoatBut then it'd become less unique. There's already multiple forums that cater to that.
If you ask me, the "Sociopath" bit is merely the bait we use to get new people.
Hi Doll face, ;) you sure got some pretty eyes there blinking at me in your cute, little avi.
Now, are you suggesting that just cause something's unique it's worthwhile or that uniqueness for the sake of uniqueness has some kinda inherent value? What's so unique about this place anyway? Serious question.
As for this "baiting" of new people y'all do by pretending to be sociopaths... seems like once they get here y'all act like little school kids and chase 'em away anyway. :) Not a very sustainable business plan for this Luna, who y'all shit on at the same time, now is it? lol
If no moderation is what makes this forum so unique, why not drop the fake SP thing and call it 'No Mod.com'
by TurncoatBobby Elvis: "To your first point, I agree completely, but the degree of asshattery here is on a whole other level."
Forced politeness would make the place seem fake, wouldn't it? The freedom to be an asshat doesn't mean that everyone will reflect those traits, and the freedom ought to not be ripped away just because of some squeaky wheels. The ability to be a jerk but not bother to shows more than a place where everyone has no choice but to behave in one fashion.
This place is already fake and there are far more 'squeaky wheels' than there are relevant posters. Just change the name to asshat-community and let the BS fly.
by Miss Diagnosed
by TurncoatBut then it'd become less unique. There's already multiple forums that cater to that.
If you ask me, the "Sociopath" bit is merely the bait we use to get new people.Hi Doll face, ;) you sure got some pretty eyes there blinking at me in your cute, little avi.
Now, are you suggesting that just cause something's unique it's worthwhile or that uniqueness for the sake of uniqueness has some kinda inherent value? What's so unique about this place anyway? Serious question.
As for this "baiting" of new people y'all do by pretending to be sociopaths... seems like once they get here y'all act like little school kids and chase 'em away anyway. :) Not a very sustainable business plan for this Luna, who y'all shit on at the same time, now is it? lol
If no moderation is what makes this forum so unique, why not drop the fake SP thing and call it 'No Mod.com'
this group of people... some of them at least met by chance on the old nabble forums for sociopath world. so it just kinda started here.. when it comes down to it, this website started because sociopath world needed a forum. so for this reason we should stick to sociopathy as a topic. not that it matters since no1s enforcing topics or anything.. but the point is that.. we can't just hijack the community and completely change it's topic.
if that were to happen, it would have to be a 2nd community.
also this place isnt a business plan for me... its more of a... hobby with potential to be profitable some day
"Now, are you suggesting that just cause something's unique it's worthwhile or that uniqueness for the sake of uniqueness has some kinda inherent value?"
It offers something a lot of other places don't. If it's not enjoyed, users are free to go elsewhere. It's easy to find a forum with moderation, very easy. This place has posted multiple moderated ASPD forums, and there have to be others like it already.
"What's so unique about this place anyway?"
Originally at least, it's counter-perspective against it's own blog (which has a comments section community of it's own), the ideal of lack of moderation, and the crowd it drew in. I've seen quite a few forums, but there was something raw about this place where things you don't like had to be dealt with, tolerated, instead of Big Brothered away from people's eyes.
The place at points even polices itself against that which it does not like, save for spam attacks and website strikes in general really. That has been the best reasoning for moderation thus far.
"As for this "baiting" of new people y'all do by pretending to be sociopaths"
Many don't pretend. New types come in expecting it and end up surprised to see what's there instead. If you ask me, this place is about as Sociopathic as M.E. herself, and that reflection through it's community makes it become that much more obvious.
"seems like once they get here y'all act like little school kids and chase 'em away anyway."
People stay, people leave, and then more people come in. The place's nature changes every so often. Save for a few staples, the place changes out it's players often.
"Not a very sustainable business plan for this Luna, who y'all shit on at the same time, now is it?"
See the above about "Beta Testers". Regardless of what is said here, people are testing her software and revealing flaws within it, and when people attack the forum's software itself? It reveals flaws that can be bandaged to make it all the stronger. It's a process.
"If no moderation is what makes this forum so unique, why not drop the fake SP thing and call it 'No Mod.com'"
Because M.E.'s blog pulls people in. It's a means to an end for traffic, even if the name isn't accurate.
There's webcomic forums that hate their own webcomics as well for example, choosing to not talk about the comic in favor of other things. It's more about the community itself, regardless of what draws people in.
Besides, "NoMod.com" would be about as accurate as "Sociopath-Community". To top it off, people have come here and have had their questions answered, since some people are nice like that.
If anything, what I see make "Sociopath" topics unpopular is the sheer redundancy. People get bored of the topic but still find people here they like to stick around for. Seeing as the place is (fairly) unmoderated, they are free to do that as they please.
Edit: Above all, the idea of being a "Sociopath Forum" denotes the characteristics of the forum itself instead of it's denizens. People can go "Well, it is a sociopath forum" when it comes to dealing with the crap that comes with this place. It grants the pre-expectation of needing tolerance, instead of mewling for a mod to make everything all better when someone hurts someone else's feelings.
"Forum Adversaries" also have a fun effect when it comes to banding users together who otherwise might not. Not to glorify them in anyway, but the stuff we're dealing with now is nothing compared to some of our past users.
"This place is already fake and there are far more 'squeaky wheels' than there are relevant posters."
The difference is that those who are fake here are fake by choice. Rules force a set of behaviors, while a lack of them let people do as they please.
Many of the squeaky types have puppets, so I can see how you'd see it as unbalanced.
wow, that's a shitty outlook on business, 'lucky if we ever decide to allocate any real time to it'. no one here owes you anything, you know.
maybe this place is so boring because you ban interesting people/women, and take the time to try to understand people like joshy. this place would be more entertaining for you if everyone kissed your ass and found your threads to be insightful and interesting, rather than meaningless ramblings of someone who is high as a motherfucker.
by Luna Prey
by Miss Diagnosed
by TurncoatBut then it'd become less unique. There's already multiple forums that cater to that.
If you ask me, the "Sociopath" bit is merely the bait we use to get new people.Hi Doll face, ;) you sure got some pretty eyes there blinking at me in your cute, little avi.
Now, are you suggesting that just cause something's unique it's worthwhile or that uniqueness for the sake of uniqueness has some kinda inherent value? What's so unique about this place anyway? Serious question.
As for this "baiting" of new people y'all do by pretending to be sociopaths... seems like once they get here y'all act like little school kids and chase 'em away anyway. :) Not a very sustainable business plan for this Luna, who y'all shit on at the same time, now is it? lol
If no moderation is what makes this forum so unique, why not drop the fake SP thing and call it 'No Mod.com'this group of people... some of them at least met by chance on the old nabble forums for sociopath world. so it just kinda started here.. when it comes down to it, this website started because sociopath world needed a forum. so for this reason we should stick to sociopathy as a topic. not that it matters since no1s enforcing topics or anything.. but the point is that.. we can't just hijack the community and completely change it's topic.
if that were to happen, it would have to be a 2nd community.
also this place isnt a business plan for me... its more of a... hobby with potential to be profitable some day
This is where you're going wrong. Find what part of your life this place fits into and keep it there, in its little box. Work is work and private business is private business; when one project starts overlapping into two or more areas of your life you will lose control of it.