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You did say something about my emotional range; you called me a robot, remember?

I do have an insufficiency, and I’m not deflecting so much as cutting straight to the chase. A girl’s relationship with her father becomes the pattern for all of her future relationships with men. If a man does not express affection appropriately to his daughter, her ability to receive it in every form will be stunted, and her capacity to form intimate bonds will be arrested, underdeveloped or skewed. This does not merely apply to her sex life. My relationship to my father was tumultuous and occasionally violent. My relationships with men have followed the same pattern. It was much worse when I was younger, before I met my husband. I left some damaged people in my wake.

You seem to imply that my sexuality being patterned after my relationship with my father is a bad thing, possibly because you are uncomfortable with the notion of deriving sexual pleasure from violence. But the same principle holds true for you- and everyone. What do your preferences say about your relationship with your father? Mine may point to a poor relationship, but I appreciate the shape of my lust just the same.

While every subtle variation of sexual preference may well be linked to our first relationships with our parents and siblings, to profoundly scrutinize the matter is pointless, because our penchants run so deep, they are unlikely to ever change. We may as well learn to make the best of them.

It is possible to be sadomasochistic and have a healthy sex life, if you aren’t concerned with society’s definition of “healthy”, or what others might think of your predilections.

Sex is just a means through which to give and obtain pleasure. I may be cerebral, but I’m too hedonistic to deny myself what feels good, just because society deems it unpalatable.

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You, on the other hand, Chana, claim to have a stodgy, oppressive husband who monitors your every word online, going so far as to censor your comments on facebook. You've admitted that he is embarrassed by your behaviours, and even how you express yourself.

Why is that, Chana? Do you allow him to exert such control over you because that is how daddy treated you? Was your father ever embarrassed by your behaviour, like your husband presently is?

Do you always act out by making whorish little comments to guys like GiaHawk, or flirting with your husband's friends, because you are not woman enough to directly confront him on the ways in which he dissatisfies you?

 

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Alter

You wouldn't ever admit how Chana managed to hit a nerve without even trying.

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Alter

What makes you think it hit a nerve? As introspective as I am, do you think it never occurred to me that my emotional detachment, abusive tendencies, and predilection for violent sex might be linked to my relationship with my father? Lol, thank-you, Captain Obvious!

Unlike you, I own my shit, spacetard.

It seems you were too busy trying to find a chink in my armour to have actually read what I said. If you had, you might have realized that I had already disarmed myself. :)

EDIT: And by the way, she was trying. It was a feeble attempt to deride my sexuality on the basis of contradictory statements, but it was deliberate all the same.

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Alter

What makes you think it hit a nerve?

By being very defensive and offensive. You're kinda repeating yourself too. That, and you are gunning for Chana off the thread. Like damn Alt, it's Chana. She's all sunny and shit, and you're fulling her mouth.

As introspective as I am, do you think it never occurred to me that my emotional detachment, abusive tendencies, and predilection for violent sex might be linked to my relationship with my father? Lol, thank-you, Captain Obvious!

I don't know. But since you mention it, did it turn you on when you and him got into scraps ?

Unlike you, I own my shit, spacetard.

Alt, everything that belongs to me, I own. But on that note, everything in life, is borrowed. Even you're body.

It seems you were too busy trying to find a chink in my armour to have actually read what I said. If you had, you might have realized that I had already disarmed myself. :)

But Alter. Even if I did realize you had already disarmed yourself, doesn't mean you're home free, and it won't prevent me from punishing you for bullying the weak.

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Alter

Aww see now you're 'sperging out again. What is this notion you have of my wanting chana off the thread? This is what we do here, and I was quite enjoying our little conversation. As for my bullying her, she's the one who called me a robot, then proceeded to harangue me concerning the s/m... It's not my fault she's too weak to defend her position adequately. Maybe you just want to be her knight in shining armour, narc.

And no, gross. Of course it didn't turn me on when I got into scraps with my father. I hated him during those altercations. He actually profoundly disgusted me for a time in my life. But combative sex really turns me on. Of course there is probably some deep-rooted psychological link there. As I attempted to explain before, such hidden motivations probably undergird and influence everyone's innermost thoughts, desires and emotions.

But who cares? It's just sex. I enjoy it on my own terms: impulsively, aggressively, and intensely. If I have daddy dearest to thank for that, then I am grateful for his contribution to my success. ;)

 

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Alter

Alter, sexuality is determined by early childhood experiances, not exclusivly by childhood interactions with a parent. I myself am a sadist and yet my parents never behaved in any kind of way to induce that. It is interesting that you seem to think sexuality MUST be determined through parental interactions though.

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Aww see now you're 'sperging out again. What is this notion you have of my wanting chana off the thread?

When I said you're gunning for her off the thread, I mean you're gunning for her in another thread. It has nothing to do with you wishing her off the forum.

This is what we do here, and I was quite enjoying our little conversation. As for my bullying her, she's the one who called me a robot, then proceeded to harangue me concerning the s/m... It's not my fault she's too weak to defend her position adequately.

Well you could have just dried your eye. Let's not make this too compliated now. She hit a nerve, and you demand retribution.

Maybe you just want to be her knight in shining armour, narc.

Never looked at it that way, but that would be icing on yet another glorious victory wouldn't it ?

And no, gross. Of course it didn't turn me on when I got into scraps with my father. I hated him during those altercations. He actually profoundly disgusted me for a time in my life. But combative sex really turns me on. Of course there is probably some deep-rooted psychological link there. As I attempted to explain before, such hidden motivations probably undergird and influence everyone's innermost thoughts, desires and emotions.

I can just see you squirming as your face goes red with passion in your eyes, while my minions hold you down for me.

But who cares? It's just sex. I enjoy it on my own terms: impulsively, aggressively, and intensely. If I have daddy dearest to thank for that, then I am grateful for his contribution to my success. ;)

You ain't grateful for his contribution, Narcisis. He brought you in this world, shared his pot with you, and here you are sharing with us how much you dislike the man.

I don't know all your tricks woman, but when they surface, I see them !

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Alter

You stole my wild card.

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Alter

Well, sev, I am of the opinion that all our subsequent relationships are impacted by our first relationships with our parents and siblings, but that not every person reacts to the same triggers in identical ways. For instance, some people might respond to abuse with depression, as opposed to aggression.

Have you ever pondered what early childhood experiences may have shaped your sadism?

There is always a complex interplay between genetics and environmental influence, and there are a multitude of factors which impact the development of sexuality. It is hard to pin down exactly where such influences begin and end.

I might still be a sadomasochist if my father had treated me like a princess, but I honestly believe it is far less likely.

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