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TC's mind was troubled at the time. That means nothing to me, if his mind was troubled I can't see the situation being healthy for him and yet he continued to let it happen. Like I said, he had options to stopping it, but didn't. Even kept it quiet. I refuse to believe that he was paralyzed and unable to do anything about when she walked in the door numerous times with people or without. He had the ability to walk right out the door at any time.

 

It's no different than any guy hooking up with an aggressive fat bitch and regretting it. TC didn't get raped, he just didn't have the balls to deny a fat chick wanting to fuck him. He allowed it to happen, multiple times, for an extended period. It wasn't rape.

 

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That someone is too weak to fight back doesn't mean they want what they're getting. If they don't want it, it's rape. Simple as that. You can find blame for the victim, but they're a victim nevertheless.

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He wasn't too weak. He's a man and he had the strength to do anything. Simple as walking out. Him being of a fragile mind doesn't excuse anything. He had enough braincells to think "I could get 'raped' or leave". He chose to continue to let it happen.

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You'll find more discussion about this issue in this thread.

http://www.sociopath-community.com/topic/2014-05-25/turncoat-the-rape-victim-talking-about-his-rape-experience-and-his-aborted-rape-kid-3

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Agree. This story is contrived justification for regrettable choices.  

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I suppose you're right. But this type of thing happens too often for it to be as black and white as you make it out to be. I keep thinking back to abusive relationships, there are always many chances for the abused to get out, but they don't. I don't personally understand why they don't, but can't help but wonder if it's not that they don't, but that they can't.

This type of thing can't be that simple if it happens so often, in my way of thinking about it. What do you think about that?

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a man cannot be raped by a chick unless the chick is using a strap on cock to fuck the guy in the ass

okay perhaps if she holds a knife on his throat and forces him to fuck her and he can get it up and do it in that scenario it culd be called a rape

my point is rape is to sex like robbery is to money- u need to use force or its called some thing else

u culd call it sexual abuse if there was manipulation involved but rape means just taking it against their will- thats not really some thing a woman can easily do to a man

 

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"You're a man. If you didn't want it and you weren't drugged you could have stopped it."
She proved to be stronger than me. Struggling proved useless, which, while it didn't stop me from doing it when able, had shown me that the only way to stop it was to avoid her or be in blatantly public places. The paralysis usually kicked in once things felt hopeless (when the case things were less lucid, "easier" to black out), save for the first time where it was more about the blind sighting and confusion.

What would you suggest I have done, got a weapon? Even if I used one to take her down, it'd have added additional complications. I thought about it, a lot, but I knew better than to give into a murderous impulse that would have just backfired on me and the rest of my life.

"The first time it happened might have been fucked up a little bit, but it happened multiple times."
So repeat offenses of rape are consensual?

Huh, learned something today.

"She even got pregnant eventually."
It didn't take long.

"You had opportunities to not let it happen."
She knew enough law to use it to her advantage, and would have quickly turned it around on me using gender bias and perspective spin. She proved in the past to be willing to injure herself to get what she wants, among other extremes. Seriously, it was like a Bizarro World Lifetime Movie at points.

Again, I was protected just from not being around her or having witnesses. This worked fairly well at first, but once she was in the same place that I slept? My other option at that point would have been dropping out of school, as I couldn't afford to live alone, other possible roommates were taken, friends were willing to take her in still for the rent cost reduction, and I had pretty much been groomed to think that, if I fucked up school, I fucked up life for good, while effectively digging myself out of what was a pretty shoddy GPA... so I didn't leave.

Arguably a dumb decision, but in the aftermath I am better off with the degree than without it. You could argue that's choosing to continue to face it, but that doesn't denote consent, that just means I saw myself as trapped.

"So no, it's not rape if it happened over and over again and you had the ability to do something about it rather than remain silent, docile, and not take the initiative to stop it. You allowed it to happen."
Funny, I thought saying "No" denied consent, and taking action beyond that was seen as committing an offense. So you barging into a room and fucking someone while holding their mouth shut is consensual to you, all the while beating them senseless while even showing a mind to strangle, because she can't say no? I hope you don't let women know that too openly in real life~

I wasn't silent for all of it, mostly for the parts where she either forced me to be quiet or had proven I was helpless. From your explanation, weakness denotes consent, which is a rather strange view, if you ask me, to have.

"He wasn't too weak. He's a man and he had the strength to do anything."
You keep bringing up this "man" thing, like as if that was supposed to suddenly make me stronger than her.

I wasn't. I was weaker than her. The schizophrenic flipping out didn't make things easier, but even without that she wasn't weak or stupid, especially just because "she's a woman". She might have been delusional, but that doesn't mean she lacked enough know-how to function like that.

"Simple as walking out."
Yes, because that allows me to phase through grapples like some sort of ghost. Again, having people around was really the best defense.

Still, feel free to think what you want, you didn't see it, so it makes sense that you'd see things that way. Even if you had, given my algolagnia, you'd likely still carry that view.

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by TheSocio

He wasn't too weak. He's a man and he had the strength to do anything. 

 Well, unless the rapist is the size of a beached whale (which she was, according to the other thread), and she catches you unawares (like lying in bed), and sits on top of you - that can overpower anyone of average built, by sheer dead weight / volume.

That said, in retrospect what should've been done:

1.  report the rape ASAP at police, and put her on the sex offender list. (I can see how it could be difficult tho,  female-on-male sexual offences are not taken seriously in the current overPC climate)

2. have a big sharp awl or any such tool at hand, and stick it deep in her flabby arse next time she sits on you. While she's flailing about in surprise & agony, bash her face in repeatedly with a blunt object. Again, report the attempted rape and explain your acts of self-defence. 

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"1.  report the rape ASAP at police, and put her on the sex offender list. (I can see how it could be difficult tho,  female-on-male sexual offences are not taken seriously in the current overPC climate)"
It didn't help that she knew this already, even bragged about it in offhanded ways that would make it seem like just conversation to others.

"2. get a big sharp awl or any such tool, and stick it deep in her flabbyarse next time she sits on you. While she's flailing about in surprise & agony, bash her face in repeatedly with a blunt object. Again, report the attempted rape and explain your acts of self-defence. "
At the time, I saw ideas like that as a one way ticket to jail. I had a pocket knife, and I knew I could pry open her lock or have it on hand for when an offense would occur, but I didn't, because I saw, and had repeatedly confirmed by people's first responses to my saying what happened, that I'd just be sabotaging myself, and she was rather brave from believing the same thing.

Hm, annoying. The more I explain, the more to those who are skeptical that it'll just sound like I'm making excuses. I was not strong, I was both weaker than her physically and weak of the mind from shock and a sense of helplessness I believed to be the case, and of course better ways of how I could have gone about it come up in hindsight and from those who didn't have to face it themselves. As is, instead, the past happened, and I'm (fairly) stuck with it.

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