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Pride & the ego - our greatest personal enemy?


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I would think that is the pride and the ego of the person not doing the liking that is in question? If the extension of friendship is being putting forth in a manner that does not hurt the other, what is their reason? 

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Pride & the ego - our greatest personal enemy?

"It seems to me that very few people in this world harm others for the fun of it."

They still appreciate another's pain however, even if they aren't responsible for it. Tragedy + Time = Comedy. How detached the person is from the event can speed up how long it takes to become funny. An example? The Darwin Awards.

They also are in no hurry to help someone in need unless someone else takes the initiative first. Ever hear of the Bystander Effect?


"Could anyone perhaps recommend some effective ways to train ourselves in the habbit of ignoring pride, the ego, and all the negative, irrational feelings that come associated?"

Nirvana?

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Do you consider yourself egotistical or prideful Luna?

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Pride & the ego - our greatest personal enemy?

What about you?  Do you consider yourself egotistical or prideful, Lycan?

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I have both pride, and ego, as most do.

I dont however see myself as either egotistical, or prideful.

 

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by Lycan

Do you consider yourself egotistical or prideful Luna?

 yes recently i have noticed this major flaw in myself.. probly cuz im a narccist 

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How do you feel this affecting your thought processes/rationale?

What has made you notice this ?

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by Luna Prey

 

by Lycan

Do you consider yourself egotistical or prideful Luna?

 yes recently i have noticed this major flaw in myself.. probly cuz im a narccist 

Being able to recognize this as a problem in yourself is a big awareness. Might even mean you aren't a narc. if you can get it n check. 

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i came across this recently. i think it fits well into our discussion on the ego.


You have the capacity to rationally judge the risks and benefits, the costs and rewards, of complex systems, but in a pinch you can fall back on a simple and reliable shortcut: just be slightly and blindly overconfident. The best bluff, it turns out, is the one in which even the bluffer is unaware of the cards he is holding. If you could accurately assess the odds against you—whether those odds took the shape of a hunting expedition, a one-on-one fight, or the job market for philosophy majors — you would probably turn away from the struggle more often than not. There is always plenty of evidence that the odds are not in your favor, enough to deter you from trying just about everything in life. Luckily for you, most of the time you have no idea what you are getting into, and you greatly overestimate your chances for success. It makes sense that primates like you would have evolved a fondness for delusions of grandeur. That’s the sort of attitude that gets you out of caves and beds. The relentless bombardment of challenges and tribulations makes it very difficult to be a person, whether you must fend off rabid beavers or ravenous bill collectors. Those who tried just a few percentage points harder, who persevered just a smidge longer, defeated nature more often than the realists. You’ve inherited a tendency to thrash against the odds, to be optimistic in the face of futility.

McRaney points to the work of legendary psychologist B.F. Skinner, who believed that our core personality is shaped by small, everyday “experiments” we conduct in childhood, designed to foster our self-enhancement, by putting ourselves in situations where we are competent and thus grow increasingly confident:

Over time, [Skinner] believed, you learn that a wide variety of situations and behaviors will get you attention and praise or some other reward, and you begin to position yourself to always be in situations that allow for such an exchange with the outside world. You build a sense of self-confidence around those actions and situations you can be fairly certain will provide you a return or, as he put it, a reinforcer. This is why, he said, you decide to skip some gatherings and attend others. This is why you become fast friends with some people, and others turn you off within seconds. You tend to protect a bubble you’ve created and nurtured your entire life, a bubble of positive illusions that make you feel good about yourself. Those good feelings bleed into your sense of control and your general attitude when facing unfamiliar problems. Self-esteem and self-efficacy work together to get you out of bed in the morning and keep you going back for more punishment from the unforgiving world.

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by UN Observer

 

by Luna Prey

 

by Lycan

Do you consider yourself egotistical or prideful Luna?

 yes recently i have noticed this major flaw in myself.. probly cuz im a narccist 

Being able to recognize this as a problem in yourself is a big awareness. Might even mean you aren't a narc. if you can get it n check. 

 yeah, but there is 1 thing... most of humanity seems really lazy & stupid to me. to not be a narccist... i think thta would mean i would have to begin to perceeve them as on the same lvl as me, and it relaly just seems unlikely  i'm going place. i'm going to help this world in a major way and it has nothing to do with anything besides the fact that i feel that drive..  w.e it is... it seems a very large portion of humanity has no drive so i wouldn't want to think of myself like them ever

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