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Aggression and threat assessment

I'm not sure how to say it...

 

Say I'm walking in front of a police station, with cops outside having a smoke, and a crackhead runs up to me and starts throwing punches. I'm going to put my arms up to block the punches and let the cops stop him. Now say its the same place, but I'm carrying concealed and a crackhead runs up to me and pulls out a gun. I don't care where I am. He's going to get shot.

 

If I'm in a bar and a drunk guy starts yelling at me incoherently, I'm going to tell a bouncer. If he breaks a bottle and tries to stab me with it, I'm going to punch him, or try to stab him back, or something like that.

 

The violence (real or potential) of the situation overrides the possibility of me being arrested. That being said, if the chances of me getting arrested are low to none, I might get MORE violent than I normally would, but I won't get violent just because of that.

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I understand what you mean Damaged. Answered it nicely thank you.

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by Lycan

I understand what you mean Damaged. Answered it nicely thank you.

 I'm curious as to if any of these answers helped your particular situation.

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by Damaged

I'm not sure how to say it...

 

Say I'm walking in front of a police station, with cops outside having a smoke, and a crackhead runs up to me and starts throwing punches. I'm going to put my arms up to block the punches and let the cops stop him. Now say its the same place, but I'm carrying concealed and a crackhead runs up to me and pulls out a gun. I don't care where I am. He's going to get shot.

 

If I'm in a bar and a drunk guy starts yelling at me incoherently, I'm going to tell a bouncer. If he breaks a bottle and tries to stab me with it, I'm going to punch him, or try to stab him back, or something like that.

 

The violence (real or potential) of the situation overrides the possibility of me being arrested. That being said, if the chances of me getting arrested are low to none, I might get MORE violent than I normally would, but I won't get violent just because of that.

 This is a very level headed decision.  I believe there is an understanding of right or wrong among us, it's just a matter of realizing the potential consequences.

On that note, I'm curious to see what someone 15-21 would respond with.

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I dont have a situation tech.

I have a bit of a fascination with the subject , one of those things that one likes to pull to pieces and see what remains type thing.

After my conversation with someone the other day regarding this sort of thing , it left me wondering more about it.

Not only threat assessment, but the whole gamut. How societal conditioning and ego comes into it. The blunting of response times to stimuli, how fear or excitement is processed under stress or duress, and the switching over mechanisms of the psyche to cope with new threats or situations. lots of stuff really.

If I can glean a grain or two for myself from this, or someone else does, so much the better.

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I believe that after a certain age, everyone understands how to respond to certain stimuli.  It does not matter whether or not they are labeled an empath, socio, aspie, whatever.

I'm interested in what their initial reaction would be to potential aggression.  For example, they may instinctively fight back, run away, or do nothing.  But, the actual action that follows is entirely different.

Judging from the responses a lot of assessment comes from body language, which means I could walk up to you and say "FUCK YOU," smile, then walk off.  No threat at all.  Of course if I invaded your personal space, and said "Hello," this would be considered a threat.

This is somewhat related, but what way I discovered to how individuals respond to threats is to jump out and scare them.  Some of them will jump back and scream, some will just stand there, and some will punch back.  It's an interesting test if you don't mind getting a couple bruises. :)

 

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Yep, valid points.

It would also potentially mean that someone with sociopathic traits would more than likely be more inclined to ignore potentially life threatening signals because of the low fear response and the inability to learn from some painful experiences.

 It would also depend HOW you walked up to someone before you came out with the "fuck you", and your behaviour and nuances beforehand.

If ego-based behaviour or societal ethics came into play, then the "fuck you" itself, may very well provoke a rapid physical response.

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i am more careful around unpredictability. and i am also more interested

if they do something i didn't predict, it can be fun or it can be something i respond aggressively to. i wouldn't know

but i get curious

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1. If it's a physical threat, obviously I'm looking for body language and listening to what they are saying. Tightly pursed lips, wide eyes and clenched fists. Threats to my pride and self esteem can be annoying but I don't feel threatened. If anything, I'll feel miffed and retaliate proportionally or better.

2. For that physical threat, I'm keeping in mind all the items around me which can be used as a weapon and to what part of the body to apply them. Threat to my ego; I feel slighted and resentment and consider my opponent's capabilities which is typically sub par.

3. My ego plays the role of self preservation both physically and emotionally.

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Sometimes following one train of theories can completely blind me to another possible outcome, the product of having a less open mind during the situation, which can lead to missing obvious answers. I can be thrown off pretty hard when someone responds against their nature, or if an answer is extremely simple instead of complicated. I try to keep an open mind to try to prevent things like tunnel vision, but sometimes it's unavoidable.

A lot of my being thrown off comes from unpredictability. I am good at finding patterns, but I tend to try to figure how things will go in advance. I don't like surprises, but the figuring things in advance opens me up for it that much more when I am caught off guard even with that precaution.

I'm a bit awkward when in situations I can't somewhat predict in advance. It's like I can see what's happening more than others would bother to, but the sheer number of possible outcomes from it hitting all at once is a little disorienting if I am not careful about it.

The short version: Yes, distraction does come into play.

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