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Objectification of Women

 

by Turncoat

In general at least, they aren't really wrong to think that.

 Why do you say that? 

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I went to a dentist office today and there was a hygenist, an assistant, a secretary and a doctor. Yup, a doctor in the dentists office and they were all women. I don't understand why they have to work harder. If you ask me the only thing those people had to do was sit through mind numbingly boring lectures, pay the course fees, do a few tests, and hand in resume somewhere.

Also, respect is dangerous. I have a serious issue genuinely respecting anyone because they believe they automatically deserve it based on who they think they are, however, anyone who I meet on an acquaintance level gets my immediate respect. Unless they start demanding it.

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People have far less control over themselves than they either recognize or let on. Self-control is a naive illusion of the mind that keeps us ignorant of how automatic people really are. Even my typing this is the product of other factors leading to this point, not some crazy self-made idea I pulled out of the ether.

With that in mind, many take the things they see at face value. Those people are easy prey.

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History holds many lessons of how those who once ruled finally fell because they underestimated the masses. 

Edit: TC, you edited again. lol

"Self-control is a naive illusion of the mind that keeps us ignorant of how automatic people really are."
^I agree. Social conditioning is also a fascinating aspect of this. 

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Aether... it's the Aether...

Determinism is a real possibility, but on average, there is so much randomness, there is probably some degree of choice.

However, yeah, alot of people, who experience spiritual events, feel that this is a realm, the only dimension in which we are granted the illusion of free will.

As in free will doesn't exist in thier minds. Me, I've felt as if my muscles were not within my control in a sense, mostly when dancing, it feels as if there is a rut with the motor control, and perhaps that is something not firing correctly in the brain. Enjoyable, fun to imagine not being in control, but it gets a little out of control, when the voices start dictating what you are to do next. Right?

 

Determinism in a sense is flipping your sense of space and time, inside out. Sort of... total inversion... if you allow yourself to really believe in it, genuinely.

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With large enough numbers, even paragons of humanity could be overrun.

The masses tend to be lead by a unified voice or cause. They are still being manipulated, both from this movement and from what events transpired that lead them to that point.

But really, think about it. How we respond to colors, our automatic responses to phrases and gestures, how thoughts jog from a trigger, people are just lumps of behaviors given ignorance of that simple truth. Even our attempting to guide what we do itself is the product of other things.

Behaviorism is both fascinating and depressing.


"Determinism is a real possibility, but on average, there is so much randomness, there is probably some degree of choice."

We just can't fathom all the variables. Give technology enough time and randomness will become antiquated.

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You put too much faith in technology and not enough in yourself. Sorry for being so direct.

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When a person can calculate more digits of pi from their head than a computer can spit out, I will take your comment seriously.

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Behaviorism is both fascinating and depressing

Care to extrapolate a little TC?

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I think I get this now. I bet if people were encouraged to do more artistic stuff in elementary schools, this sort of objectification wouldn't happen. Or something along those lines...

The belief in objectification will only happen if you have no been recognized for that which you can express, correct? 

This was probably a huge piece of the picture I was missing.

Anyways, people program the computers, they don't program themselves.

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