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It is a giant welfare system, both social welare and corporate welfare. It is an illusion that we are in control when we embrace capitalism.

I'm doing a few experiments with social "change"... so my summer is looks as if it will be fun to say the least... back to the land experiments...

Anyways, objectification. yeah obviously this happens with practially everyone since the majority of us are in fact raised by the television sets. I mean generations coming up will probably be raised by social communities and the internet, so big huge difference, and perhaps objectification will die down a little.

Otherwise, we are all psychopaths growing up, it only once we develop empathy and social skills that we stop being psychopaths. I think some people never get out of the television coma unfortunately... and remain sociopaths forever...

I meant more free-market, not State-controlled Capitalism, not American "Capitalism."

Because that just sucks.

Yeah, I've had a few businesses that were in the "free market". Being able to set your price arbitrarily is sort of a joke, people will pay what they think something is worth and competition will heavily influence a free market, especially in monopolistic situations.

Sure, maybe high end real estate agents have things a little differently, they can set the bar higher and nobody will truly notice right?

But for factory mass produced stuff, that's all big business... and let's face another fact, artists are taking an absolute killing with the rapid pace of technology...

Things are getting better sure, but essentially we are still looking at artist grants, and corporate social welfare situations where corporations have thousands of basically useless jobs where they pay people to do what is genuinely redundant and meaningless work. Only my opinions...

If you are talking about autonomy and anarchy well that's something I prefer thinking in terms of sometimes... if you ask me it's a little more realistic and less oppressive than the "paradox of choice" and "determinism" issues...

What makes you think technology is killing artists?

From a profit perspective? They no longer have the physical mediums to sell to people... they aren't selling records, CDs, or casette tapes anymore...

In a sense, live concerts are great, but yeah napster really turned everything upside down.

Now the cable tv and internet video wave is coming up on everybody. I think we are going to see something very interesting happen is computers continue to get faster... I mean in a few years, people will probably be able to host what youtube was capable of back on 2006, right? Only for much cheaper... guess it depends on the advertisers, who decides to watch the advertisements, and whatever other delivery formats decide to pop up...

Then you've got competition websites that put people into contests to compete for work... that kills designers...

Then you've websites setting a base price for services, at 5$ on everything. That's crazy oppressive.

However, in some instances technology is enabling artists to be more flexible with what they offer, and sometimes people fund their projects or support them generously through donations without expecting a physical product in return. Right?

So it is not all bad, it more along the lines of massive changes ahead... and some really unfortunate changes have already hit people reasonably hard... but mostly rich artists I guess, so maybe some up and coming artists made it big that way, but I sort of doubt it. Charlie Bit My finger is the biggest internet success yet, right? What artist compares...

As for enabling artists, yeah, technology obviously shines in this regard, but in a sense, if you ask me, it's lead to an era of technology worship and an underappreciation for life and the arts in general... only my opinions...

Can you elaborate with more opinions of your views on technology worship and how it affects us?

This thread may as well have been named "Objectification of Objects". For christsake, objects are supposed to be "objectified". The "problem" here is not women being regarded as objects, because they clearly ARE objects. The problem is that this thread's title is a banal tautology. Yes, women can be looked upon as objects, but so can everything â€” so what's your problem dude?

or it could have been named "Please derail this thread into a discussion on determinism vs free-will, religion, the effects of technology on modern society, and the true fundamental nature of reality."

by LoveFraudVictim

Do you believe that women are often seen as sex objects in the media? And do you think that objectification, if it exists, is a problem?

 Not just in the media (i.e. magazines, TV, the internet, the movies, etc.) but in real life too. For what exactly does a man look for in a woman? No doubt many women are eloquent and witty enough to make a few men out there willingly go out of their way to go have some interesting conversations on a random atmospheric coffee shop, and no doubt these women are very ugly and no sane man would ever regard them as "sex objects", but the VERY REASON MEN AND WOMEN ARE NATURALLY ATTRACTED TO EACH OTHER IS SEX. The man wants to fuck the woman, and the woman in turn wants to be fucked by the man. 

If they ARE regarded as sex objects, it's because they are sex objects. There's nothing wrong with this, no need to moralize, nor to "correct" anything (as if the entire history of mankind was some kind of "error" — but that's precisely what the democrat with his "modern ideas" wants to believe in: everything that has ever happened was just one big, fat error, lol). The point here, then, is not to point fingers, but simply to try to UNDERSTAND why this the way it is and hopefully reach the conclusion that there's absolutely nothing "unnatural" nor "sick" in any of this.

And truly, women should be HAPPY they are seen as sex objects. And moreover they should be happy that sex is pursued with INORDINATE amounts of enthusiasm by all the men the world. If it wasn't for sexual pleasure women themselves wouldn't probably even last another couple of centuries more in this planet.

Seriously. Eventually, when we get to the point where our babies come from the machines, there won't be many more reasons for us to keep them around besides teh sweet pusseh.