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I don't have any friends. At the surface I am nice, bubbly and well liked but when you get to know me that erodes away. I have acquaintances and the person that has banned me from speaking I used to live with. 

I kid you not I have no idea who to put on my emergency contact forms/or who to call when I'm in trouble except for my parents lol.

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A difference in distribution between affective and cognitive empathy has been observed in various conditions. Psychopathy, schizophrenia, and narcissism have been associated with impairments in affective but not cognitive empathy, whereas bipolar disorder and borderline traits have been associated with deficits in cognitive but not affective empathy. Autism spectrum disorders have been associated with various combinations, including deficits in cognitive empathy as well as deficits in both cognitive and affective empathy. Even in people without conditions such as these, the balance between affective and cognitive empathy varies.

 

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That sounds about right.

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"I have a friend that has banned me from talking"

 

This is why I brought up the friend issue.

 

 

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I realize that now. I used to live with her.

But I don't have any friends lol

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by Pink01

That sounds about right.

 Finally admitting you're autistic, pink. I always figured you for a social retard.

As for me, I have cognitive empathy, but not affective empathy. I can visually recognize people's emotions and react accordingly, but I can't feel what they're feeling.

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Huh, funny I've always figured you for one too...

IMO you are born with autism. It's obvious when you hear about my childhood for 5 minutes that I was not born this way.

 

 

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by Gypsy

You never fail to amuse me. Was that video an attempt at producing some kind of scientific evidence? It's a fucking advert! For an organisation called HeartMath, where if you want to find out anything more about them, like what research they've actually done and what journals it's published in, you have to purchase a year's membership for the bargain price of $200 (if you want full access to the pdf files).

 

Sure. An organization like Heartmath has to make money in order to continue to progress. Like other scientific communities that has researchers hard at work, they also take donations. You don't expect high output to come about from educated professionals with no funding do you ?

Heartmath's "Scientific Advisory Board" is comprised of 22 professionals who are certified doctors, university professors, biologists etc. Around the world.

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The heart is the most electric instrument in the human body. More electric than even the brain. Due to the hearts nature, it surely generates electricity, and I wouldn't doubt the heart most likely provides the entire system with electricity.

Aalto University conducted an experiment with 700 human subjects. They were able to measure where we feel emotions physically. The results are shown in the image below.

 

It's no secret, when we experience various emotions, the heart tends to "switch gears" if you will. That heart's EMF will produce an EMP feild then return to being an EMF which is different than the previous mood, and why is the electromagnetic field different ? Simply because the generator, the heart, is pulsating at a different pace which is static to the given emotion.

This information is also documented on The Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States.

"To be honest, this is common sense, just like when we turn an alternator rigged to a light bulb faster, the bulb will burn brighter."

- Spatial Mind

Other studies on the hearts electromagnetic field was done in this place.

It is the most magnetically shielded room on the face of the planet. There they have been conducting research on the heart's EMF outside of the human body.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3959851/

- The heart being the most electrical instrument in the body. Is true.

- The heart producing an electromagnetic field outside of the body. Is true.

-  Emotions do change the heart's rate giving the EMF a different vibe. If you will.

- Heartmath got it right. ( Because one doesn't want to pay, doesn't mean it's right to discredit the subjects value. )

 

You must get taken advantage of a lot in real life.

 

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by Spatial Mind

 You don't expect high output to come about from educated professionals with no funding do you ?

Of course not. But most scientists who make groundbreaking discoveries are keen to publicise them in papers and journals, whereas Heartmath seem to have taken the opposite approach and made it surprisingly difficult if, not impossible, to find specific details of what they are actually researching and what specifically they have discovered. Why would they want to keep it a secret?

And wouldn't they be funded by the government, or a university or another scientific organisation if this was actually a worthwhile project? Don't you think it's a bit cruel forcing needy people to pay $200 for what's written in those pdf files if it really could change their lives? Have you paid this subscription? 

Aalto University conducted an experiment with 700 human subjects. They were able to measure where we feel emotions physically. The results are shown in the image below.

It's no secret, when we experience various emotions, the heart tends to "switch gears" if you will. That heart's EMF will produce an EMP feild then return to being an EMF which is different than the previous mood, and why is the electromagnetic field different ? Simply because the generator, the heart, is pulsating at a different pace which is static to the given emotion.

So, what you're basically saying there is that a person's heart will beat at a different rate depending on what emotion they're feeling e.g. faster heart rate when feeling excited.

I could have told you that! I don't accept credit cards, but I'll be expecting my $200 via PayPal.

This information is also documented on The Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States.

"To be honest, this is common sense, just like when we turn an alternator rigged to a light bulb faster, the bulb will burn brighter."

- Spatial Mind

Other studies on the hearts electromagnetic field was done in this place.

It is the most magnetically shielded room on the face of the planet. There they have been conducting research on the heart's EMF outside of the human body.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3959851/

- The heart being the most electrical instrument in the body. Is true.

- The heart producing an electromagnetic field outside of the body. Is true.

-  Emotions do change the heart's rate giving the EMF a different vibe. If you will.

- Heartmath got it right. ( Because one doesn't want to pay, doesn't mean it's right to discredit the subjects value. )

I never denied that the heart has an electromagnetic field - as far as I understood it that's how heart scans such as EEGs operate. But what you were saying is that some people have the ability to sense other people's emotions through these electromagnetic fields. Which is not supported by anything you wrote above.

You must get taken advantage of a lot in real life.

 Are you seriously comparing yourself to Gandhi? Because liberating India from colonialism and arguing about electromagnetic fields on the internet are so similar? You'll just get defensive and squeal about groupthink if I call you a narcissist, so here's a random picture of Mother Teresa by way of counter argument.

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The reason I put Gandhi there, is because I quoted him to you in my first response to you.

And no I'm not arguing. No hard feeling, no insult, no need for any of that nor do I have a desire to ridicule anyone with a different point of view. Just sharing some of the mechanics that makes cognitive empathy possible. 

I'll scrap the humor. Apparently it distracts from the more important discussion.  

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 So, what you're basically saying there is that a person's heart will beat at a different rate depending on what emotion they're feeling e.g. faster heart rate when feeling excited.

Yes. And a different heart rate will also change the nature of the heart's electromagnetic field. The heart itself is the generator after all.

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