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Tough love and boundaries.

But experience doesn't necessarily delve into explaining what you are as you perceive yourself as. External perspective becomes necessary and skews the image at that point. But wasn't the original assessment valid enough to recognize yourself for what you are?

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Tough love and boundaries.

"But experience doesn't necessarily delve into explaining what you are as you perceive yourself."
Pretty sure it's through experience that you learn who you are, if not develop into who you become. Amnesiacs and the like are a confused lot from not being able to recall their experiences.

"External perspective becomes necessary and skews the image at that point."
What isn't skewed? All perspective is.

"But wasn't the original assessment valid enough to recognize yourself for what you are?"
Pretty sure that's a no. I had no idea what to make of myself until I spent time delving.

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Tough love and boundaries.

People forget easily why they desire and then follow the infinitesimal point from which the desire stems from.

Life isn't about a perspective, but a perspective deems that life has a point.

Perhaps being angry about the repercussions of what life isn't makes the experience worthwhile?

Or perhaps accepting things as they are and following the systematized reality suffices?

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Tough love and boundaries.

"People forget easily why they desire"
I'd argue it's closer to people not bothering to look into it enough.

"and then follow the infinitesimal point from which the desire stems from."
...they're led by small points that come from their desires origin? What makes those small?

"Life isn't about a perspective, but a perspective deems that life has a point."
Perspective is inevitable, it's present in every living person capable of thought. Something that is present in every person could be argued to be something that life is about, at least for human life.

Not all perspectives argue that life has a point.

"Perhaps being angry about the repercussions of what life isn't makes the experience worthwhile?"
But anger is unpleasant.

"Or perhaps accepting things as they are and following the systematized reality suffices?"
Ah, but what constitutes "as they are", and how do you know when you're done looking?

Often the journey stops from apathy.

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Tough love and boundaries.

Maintaining boundaries with the PDs in my life is an ongoing challenge. One thing that has helped me is seeing boundary pushing as manipulation. If I feel guilty I use it as a sign that I'm being messed with. I think setting strong boundaries is the only way to cope with PDs. 

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Tough love and boundaries.

Agree with you again. 

 

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Tough love and boundaries.

What is it that makes that worth dealing with?

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Tough love and boundaries.

Love.

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Tough love and boundaries.

I guess do what you can and don't expect much in return, no?

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Tough love and boundaries.

No. I do expect something in return. I want a give/ take with family and loved ones.  If I bug them, they can set a boundary with me, as well.

I think relationships work best that way. :)

 

 

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